Noise pollution hurts the heart • Hacker News Board

Re: Noise pollution hurts the heart

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Post by josefresco » Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 5:37 PM UTC

boredumb wrote: post #12

baron816 wrote: post #3

There are few things that make me angrier than when a Harley-Davidson style motorcycle (or a pack of them) drive past me while I’m walking down the street. I can’t believe cities haven’t prohibited them, especially at night. Those things are specifically designed to create noise pollution. They’re so fucking obnoxious, even just thinking about it while I’m writing this is working me up.

Harleys stock are actually under the legal noise limit (80 decibels i think?) and are generally that loud due to straight exhaust and a specific cam shaft they use to squeeze more performance out of them. My understanding is folks prefer them to be loud so that they can be better noticed by cars and get hit less often. Dirt bikes are around 100 decibels, perform like trash and shouldn't be on the freeway near cars in…

"My understanding is folks prefer them to be loud so that they can be better noticed by cars and get hit less often."

As a member of a motorcycle riding family in the US (I don't ride, but several close family members do) this is hilariously wrong. They like it loud because they like the sound, and they like to get noticed. I say hilariously because I constantly joke with my family members about how silly the bike culture is, and to give full credit to them; they agree.

Re: Noise pollution hurts the heart

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Post by 74d-fe6-2c6 » Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 5:38 PM UTC

UweSchmidt wrote: post #33

macg333 wrote: post #27

I live near a busy road, close to an intersection with a stoplight, and have my desk at a window that faces said road. The constant slowing a revving of traffic around the light is very distracting and I run an air purifier on high throughout the day to stabilize the noise and drown out the shifting traffic noises. I have also shifted my desk so that it does not overlook the road and thus I don't have to watch indivi…

With more EVs the local pollution is going go down a lot. Probably also something that you'd notice more you could do a quick A/B test.

Not sure about the long run development, though. There are people who install mp3-players attached to powerful speakers which are synchronized with the gas paddle. Those are insanely loud and sometimes sound more like perverted space ships. Meaning - for many idiots a loud car or motorcycle never was about enjoying the mechanics to begin with.

Re: Noise pollution hurts the heart

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 5:39 PM UTC

LinuxBender wrote: post #14

saiya-jin wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sounds like exactly the kind of work cops should be doing

It does, but most cops have spouses and children to go home to. Given options, they will lean towards writing tickets to people less likely to be violent. This is easy to fix and has been fixed in some cities, but then the blowback usually goes the other way. Citizens will complain that the department has been over militarized and will demand the department lose funding until all the military gear has been removed.

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Re: Noise pollution hurts the heart

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Post by boredumb » Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 5:39 PM UTC

ReactiveJelly wrote: post #5

baron816 wrote: post #3

There are few things that make me angrier than when a Harley-Davidson style motorcycle (or a pack of them) drive past me while I’m walking down the street. I can’t believe cities haven’t prohibited them, especially at night. Those things are specifically designed to create noise pollution. They’re so fucking obnoxious, even just thinking about it while I’m writing this is working me up.

Yes, it's frustrating that some people just don't believe in the human right to peace and quiet. That's one reason why I have no hope for self-organizing models of society. There are griefers who only respond to force, and it doesn't take many of them to fuck up the whole game.

You believe we need a more authoritarian society because some people live lives that are louder than you deem appropriate and enough so that you are willing to 'respond with force' and you somehow see them as the people who are "fucking up the whole game"?

Re: Noise pollution hurts the heart

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 5:39 PM UTC

LinuxBender wrote: post #14

saiya-jin wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sounds like exactly the kind of work cops should be doing

It does, but most cops have spouses and children to go home to. Given options, they will lean towards writing tickets to people less likely to be violent. This is easy to fix and has been fixed in some cities, but then the blowback usually goes the other way. Citizens will complain that the department has been over militarized and will demand the department lose funding until all the military gear has been removed.

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Re: Noise pollution hurts the heart

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Post by 74d-fe6-2c6 » Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 5:40 PM UTC

centimeter wrote: post #25

Dumblydorr wrote: post #4

The main problem seems to be stress; with loud noises comes stress, which is a chronic killer. There's also the correlation between loud noise and air pollution, loud noise and sleep disruption, vibrations, disruptions to daily habits, inconvenience of construction and transit, etc. Personal story, there were workers using an extremely loud diesel powered crane to redo the facade of our building. They without fail be…

I think it’s unfortunate that society has become pacified to a point that people generally will not use e.g. minor equipment sabotage to deal with nuisances like this that otherwise take excessive bureaucratic nonsense to combat.

you have to fight an asshole like an asshole - few people are able to pull this off. most people prefer to suffer and pretend to themselves to be "tolerant" instead of just standing up for themselves.

Re: Noise pollution hurts the heart

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Post by dilutedh2o » Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 5:42 PM UTC

boredumb wrote: post #44

ReactiveJelly wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it's frustrating that some people just don't believe in the human right to peace and quiet. That's one reason why I have no hope for self-organizing models of society. There are griefers who only respond to force, and it doesn't take many of them to fuck up the whole game.

You believe we need a more authoritarian society because some people live lives that are louder than you deem appropriate and enough so that you are willing to 'respond with force' and you somehow see them as the people who are "fucking up the whole game"?

amen

Re: Noise pollution hurts the heart

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Post by sneak » Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 5:43 PM UTC

baron816 wrote: post #3

There are few things that make me angrier than when a Harley-Davidson style motorcycle (or a pack of them) drive past me while I’m walking down the street. I can’t believe cities haven’t prohibited them, especially at night. Those things are specifically designed to create noise pollution. They’re so fucking obnoxious, even just thinking about it while I’m writing this is working me up.

Loud sounds are annoying to be sure, but this sounds also like a bit of an emotional regulation issue in addition, especially if just writing a comment about the event is enraging you.

Stressing about that kind of stuff that you ultimately have little/no control over is an express train to an unhappy life.

Re: Noise pollution hurts the heart

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Post by tayo42 » Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 5:43 PM UTC

ReactiveJelly wrote: post #5

baron816 wrote: post #3

There are few things that make me angrier than when a Harley-Davidson style motorcycle (or a pack of them) drive past me while I’m walking down the street. I can’t believe cities haven’t prohibited them, especially at night. Those things are specifically designed to create noise pollution. They’re so fucking obnoxious, even just thinking about it while I’m writing this is working me up.

Yes, it's frustrating that some people just don't believe in the human right to peace and quiet. That's one reason why I have no hope for self-organizing models of society. There are griefers who only respond to force, and it doesn't take many of them to fuck up the whole game.

Lately I've come to the conclusion that peace and quiet really is a luxury to have. Most people I don't think get to experience it. You need to have money to have it so you can live somewhere nice. Other wise your stuck living in apartment buildings, crowded cities, next to noisy neighbors. Go to busy shared spaces (ppl stop playing radios out doors!) or staying in shitty hotels.

Re: Noise pollution hurts the heart

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Post by josefresco » Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 5:43 PM UTC

ryanianian wrote: post #13

Damaging the heart sounds right. My neighbor has a unique obsession with his leaf-blower. It's like his daily 30-120 minutes of exercise at random times of the day. Even with all the noise-cancelling technology in the world, it ruins me for at least 2-3 hours and makes both video-conferencing and deep work basically impossible. Here's the thing: Nobody cares. The neighbor can say no to polite requests to figure out a…

Most of my neighbors hire leaf blower toting professional landscaping crews to clear their lawns on a regular basis. The process takes maybe 10 minutes for weekly blowouts, and maybe 45-60 minutes for seasonal jobs.

I thought this was obnoxious, until one of my neighbors decided to do the work themselves. It took them an entire long weekend of (what seemed like) 9-5 blowing to clear their lot.