From the clickbait title alone, this looks a lot like disguised advertising. Title is only missing "and leaked screenshot #3 will shock you"
We can assert that any mac related news on HN is advertising (nowithstanding security alerts)
MacBook Pro M1X benchmarks have leaked
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
The other thing is RAM. Apple still has delusions of gimping it's buyers into 16/32GB for "Pro" level machines. I'd probably buy a 16" MBP with this chip if I could get it with socketed 64/128GB. But Apple's going to solder it to the board and charge a premium even if they did.
Yeah it's really annoying that 8/256 is the base still. It's been like that for years - I think that's been the same since around 2016. Would be much better if the base model was 16/512, but that's $500 of nearly pure profit apple would lose.
256 GB is more than enough for many people. Consider work laptops that are mostly used in meetings, or personal laptops for folks who live in the cloud.
I've recently used a 100 GB partition on my personal laptop for client work and it was fine.
(I'm not trying to defend the price of Apple's SSD upgrades.)
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#43Intel should be scared of its own failures. Apple is merely a competitor that didn't fall asleep.
It's kind of amazing how often the folks that pull ahead in a market are the folks that didn't fall asleep.
For example: DOS wasn't technically better than anything else; it was just the one that was being aggressive about adoption.
Or the fact that Sony was really in a position to OWN portable music in perpetuity, but went to sleep. Apple wasn't asleep, and didn't have outsized anxiety about digital music, so the iPod entered a market without a dominant "Digital Walkman".
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64GB was available on the previous Mac Mini, but they took a step backwards and capped the new one at 16GB, no reason they won't do the same with the MBP.
I literally have a previous Mac Mini with maxed-out RAM thanks to OWC and their RAM upgrades. Also one of the new Macbook Pros. From my experience with both, I think you might be very unhappy in retrospect if you bet that more RAM is going to make the most recent Intel one come within shouting distance of even an 8GB M1 Mini. The old one was one of the best for single-core performance within its generation, but they'…
Class action lawsuits?
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There is no Macbook with AMD processor, I think that's why it is compared to Intel, that plus Intel being the historic leader
There's plenty of non-Macbooks with AMD processors which are competitive to it. Comparing to Intel is like comparing to PPC MacBooks - meaningless.
At this point, isn't comparing it to any non-Mac meaningless?
The only way to get an M1 is to buy a Mac anyways.
Unless/until you see a mass exodus of people from x86 based OSes the comparisons don't matter.
Sure, new Macs will be super fast, and that in itself will result in some conversions, but there are plenty of other factors that would keep people from switching to Mac.
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Rules change. I've got one of the 16GB RAM Macbook Pros. They've got it acting like it's L2 cache instead of RAM as we know it, so the place where you need more than 128G becomes, well, the SSD, your mass storage. These things already don't act as if it's RAM as we're used to considering it. They could probably have shipped the first ones with 4G RAM and had 'em act relatively normal… with heavy stuff like 4K video e…
Do you have any evidence for this claim? The actual concrete performance numbers for the M1 and Zen3 don't agree with you at all: M1: https://images.anandtech.com/doci/16252/latency-m1_575px.png Zen3: https://images.anandtech.com/doci/16214/lat-5950.png If anything the M1's ram has _higher_ latency than the Zen3. (Can't reply to the sibling comment but Intel's numbers are even better: https://images.anandtech.com/doc…
> like doing said editing smoother with fewer dropped frames than far more powerful Intel machines with a lot more RAM
Just noting Zen3 is not Intel.
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#47Side question: how do you object to all the cookie related activities on that website and not just the "legitimate interest" one?
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#48Note that Tom's Guide is not the same thing as Tom's Hardware despite the same owner. It's where all the clickbait and low quality content of Future plc goes.
Second this. The quality difference between the two is staggering.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no Macbook with AMD processor, I think that's why it is compared to Intel, that plus Intel being the historic leader
There's plenty of non-Macbooks with AMD processors which are competitive to it. Comparing to Intel is like comparing to PPC MacBooks - meaningless.
At the moment you can buy intel and apple macbooks. They run the same system etc so that's how you can compare the two machines.
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Considering that Apple ditched Intel for their own Apple Silicon chips it makes more sense comparing them (for now).
Why? The MacBooks aren't competing against their previous iterations (since you can't buy them anymore), but against their non-Apple competition. When you'll be buying a new laptop, you won't be choosing between a 2018 MacBook and a 2021 MacBook, but between 2021 MacBook and offerings from Lenovo, Dell, Microsoft and others.
Well, I think the decision is a little more complicated.
If you are upgrading, OS inertia may prevent you from choosing a machine that doesn't run the OS you're currently on. So a lot of Windows users may not even consider a Mac, and vice versa.