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K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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I'm surprised there's no work being done on the UI on the roadmap, K-9 looks like an app from the "Ice Cream Sandwich" days of Android. With that being said, K-9 is the best Android app I've seen for mail that isn't made by Google. edit: it seems the work has already been done, thanks for the correction.

Have you looked at the beta versions yet? The UI was overhauled over basically the last 1.5 years and the points mentioned in the blog post are the bits missing to release that as a stable version (IMAP IDLE mostly): https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/releases I've been running the betas since more than a year without any problems whatsoever. (If you don't need push obviously)

Thanks for the tip, the GitHub release makes a real difference compared to the outdated version on the Play Store. It's sad that there is not many reliable email client alternatives to GMail that works with custom server.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

#43
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K-9 is a really great mail app for android! In my opinion it's the best app if you want to use a custom SMTP/IMAP server instead of using a solution like hotmail/google/etc. It also has PGP support (with the help of OpenKeyChain to manage certificates) that works great! There are no other well known solutions for applications supporting PGP in Android; this is huge. People that either want to avoid walled gardens or…

I like FairEmail too... it also supports PGP. https://f-droid.org/en/packages/eu.faircode.email/

That one supposedly has source code available under GPL3 but despite GPL3 clause 9, which says "You are not required to accept this License in order to receive or run a copy of the Program", presents the GPL3 as an EULA and refuses to run unless the user clicks "I agree".

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

#44
I really love K9 Mail. I startend donating 5€ per month now.

What I love the most is how easy it is to sort E-Mail and to actually use existing Folderstructures.

I almost dont need a desktop client anymore to handle my mail.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

#45

I really love K9 Mail. I startend donating 5€ per month now. What I love the most is how easy it is to sort E-Mail and to actually use existing Folderstructures. I almost dont need a desktop client anymore to handle my mail.

I sometimes wish k9mail was available on the desktop.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

#46

I'm surprised there's no work being done on the UI on the roadmap, K-9 looks like an app from the "Ice Cream Sandwich" days of Android. With that being said, K-9 is the best Android app I've seen for mail that isn't made by Google. edit: it seems the work has already been done, thanks for the correction.

I don't know, the UI is good. I like the "Ice Cream Sandwich" look, honestly. I wonder if the time of an open-source project is best served by re-doing the UI just to keep up with trends.

This is a very benign and positive UI change tbf. I say that as someone who heavily uses this app since many years and who is _very_ conservative w.r.t. software. I've switched to the beta and am really happy with it. Not just changed, really improved.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

#47
I remember using K-9 when I got my first (or second?) Android phone. I don’t remember the exact version, but it was probably pre-ICS. I do remember that I liked it a lot.

Fast forward to a couple of years ago, I tried the app again and was disappointed at how it looked basically identical to the last time I tried it. Seeing that, I just assumed it became abandonware.

Does this fund raiser mean I was wrong, and the app was always under development, or that it was recently revived?

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like FairEmail too... it also supports PGP. https://f-droid.org/en/packages/eu.faircode.email/

That one supposedly has source code available under GPL3 but despite GPL3 clause 9, which says "You are not required to accept this License in order to receive or run a copy of the Program", presents the GPL3 as an EULA and refuses to run unless the user clicks "I agree".

I can't be any less of a lawyer, but that sounds OK to me. One is not required to accept the license merely by virtue of it's having been published under that license, but this is surely compatible with the author adding extra conditions to run their program if they so wish?

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

#49
I've been using K-9 since forever, maybe since 2011 if it's as old as that. I don't need any new feature, all I need is that it downloads mail from POP3 accounts. Manual pull only, customers already send me push messages on Slack ;-) Still I'm donating some money because I want that it keeps working on new Android versions.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

#50
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That one supposedly has source code available under GPL3 but despite GPL3 clause 9, which says "You are not required to accept this License in order to receive or run a copy of the Program", presents the GPL3 as an EULA and refuses to run unless the user clicks "I agree".

I can't be any less of a lawyer, but that sounds OK to me. One is not required to accept the license merely by virtue of it's having been published under that license, but this is surely compatible with the author adding extra conditions to run their program if they so wish?

The copyright holder is not bound by the license granted to others, so in general is legally permitted to add any additional restrictions. However, as this particular additional restriction is not one of the additional restrictions that GPL3 section 7 permits, section 10 applies to anyone other than the copyright holder, which states "You may not impose any further restrictions on the exercise of the rights granted or affirmed under this License." This is a problem for e.g. F-Droid's package, which is neither distributed by the author nor distributed in accordance with the terms of the GPL.
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