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Re: Teardown of the Apple's A1243 Keyboard

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I love and loathe Apple keyboards. On the love side, the original 1984 Mac, and the Apple ][. On the loathe side, most anything in this century. I like the IBM model M's, too, so there's that. My daily drivers now are Cherry Blues or Browns.

Matias makes some modern USB clones of the original Apple keyboards you mention, all the way down to making a modern clone of the ALPS switches.

Re: Teardown of the Apple's A1243 Keyboard

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Apple has put out two versions of their tenkeyless keyboard -- one powered by AA batteries (and with a substantial battery hump to hold them), and a low-profile version with an internal battery that charges via Lightning. I had been using one of the latter for at least 5-6 years (before a key died, courtesy of something falling on the keyboard). I've had my current keyboard for about 4 months, and I haven't yet had t…

I would hope they can achieve a 50 year battery lifespan... After all, in the life of a keyboard it probably types 10,000 characters per day for 50 years. Call that 400 Million events that need to be sent to your mac via bluetooth low energy. The system can be entirely powered down when no key is pressed, so the only energy loss is a pre-keypress amount. That works out to about 3 Watt-hours (assuming each keypress is…

> It would probably work out cheaper because you don't need to ship the device with a cable or charge circuitry too. Users don't have one more thing to worry about charging either.

Knowing Apple they'd probably solder or glue the battery so that you have even one less thing to worry about

Re: Teardown of the Apple's A1243 Keyboard

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That model, but without the numpad, is still my favorite keyboard (the A1242). I've tried mechanical keyboards for fun, but I keep coming back to this one for the low profile. It was only sold for a year or so before the wireless model replaced it, and it's hard to find them now. What I did was to look for used iMacs from 2010, see which ones have the A1242, then ask the seller to only sell me the keyboard. Based on…

I found one (A1242) in the office surplus last year and have been using it since.

Re: Teardown of the Apple's A1243 Keyboard

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This isn't widely known, but the Magic2 keyboard can be turned into a wired keyboard by simply plugging in a thunderbolt wire. It will function entirely without bluetooth.

(This also seems to fix Bluetooth connectivity issues. I've got a Mac that likes to forget its connections, and doing this appears to force a "oh, I recognize that device".)

FYI- disconnects may be caused by USB-3 interference with bluetooth signal.

Re: Teardown of the Apple's A1243 Keyboard

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I think keyboards could be more powerful. I remember apple had a keyboard with usb ports[1] and sun had keyboards with speakers[2]. I don't why keyboards can't have some inexpensive useful features. [1] https://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/imac-aluminum-faq/im... [2] https://archive.org/stream/bitsavers_sunsparcSPationVer11999...

Just FYI, the speaker in the Sun keyboard only existed to emit status beeps when the computer is powered on and self-tests. Most non-suns have the same speaker integrated into the computer itself. At least when those sorts of beepy-PC-BIOSes were more common.

Re: Teardown of the Apple's A1243 Keyboard

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That model, but without the numpad, is still my favorite keyboard (the A1242). I've tried mechanical keyboards for fun, but I keep coming back to this one for the low profile. It was only sold for a year or so before the wireless model replaced it, and it's hard to find them now. What I did was to look for used iMacs from 2010, see which ones have the A1242, then ask the seller to only sell me the keyboard. Based on…

This isn't widely known, but the Magic2 keyboard can be turned into a wired keyboard by simply plugging in a thunderbolt wire. It will function entirely without bluetooth.

Using Magic2s on my PCs. Wired. Windows needed a driver extracted from bootcamp to make fn key work properly. Those I consider to be the best keyboards I have used so far; and I have used many, including the much hyped original IBM mechanical ones (with the PCs they came with).

Re: Teardown of the Apple's A1243 Keyboard

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I was using a Microsoft ergo keyboard, among others, for years and suffered from what I thought was going to be lifelong tendonitis, making life rather difficult as a programmer.

Then I started using this keyboard and my tendonitis went away in a few weeks and never came back. Thank you Apple.

Re: Teardown of the Apple's A1243 Keyboard

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This isn't widely known, but the Magic2 keyboard can be turned into a wired keyboard by simply plugging in a thunderbolt wire. It will function entirely without bluetooth.

I doubt many people don't like the Magic Keyboard because it's wireless, but rather because it has a different key feel. Although I have an A1243 at home and had a Magic Keyboard at the office and didn't feel like there was much of a difference between the two. If my A1243 failed for some reason, I'd probably just get one of those (since buying a mechanical keyboard with a Mac layout is impossible).

I can highly recommend ... not buying the DAS keyboard with mac layout.

I have one I got gently used from a coworker, who special ordered it... it's got a sticky spacebar that will random lock up and need to be lubricated; the keys are just printed on ABS so they're already wearing out and they look ugly as sin (plus they get so grimy so quickly).

the only pro on this thing is the volume wheel / media keys, and the fact that the mac will recognize it and follow the "correct" behaviour. had tons of problems with previous keyboards since mac osx doesn't seem to have the same level of customization as eg kde.

they're also advertised as having cherry keys, but they're really no-names -- not even Kalih, Outemu, or Gateron (who at this point are as reliable or better than cherry).

Hard pass. My coolermaster keyboard ended up being a lot better. not holding my breath that apple gets its shit together and adopts a better keyboard layout. did wish someone made a mechanical that maybe used a dip switch or something easy to switch between layouts.

Re: Teardown of the Apple's A1243 Keyboard

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I doubt many people don't like the Magic Keyboard because it's wireless, but rather because it has a different key feel. Although I have an A1243 at home and had a Magic Keyboard at the office and didn't feel like there was much of a difference between the two. If my A1243 failed for some reason, I'd probably just get one of those (since buying a mechanical keyboard with a Mac layout is impossible).

I can highly recommend ... not buying the DAS keyboard with mac layout. I have one I got gently used from a coworker, who special ordered it... it's got a sticky spacebar that will random lock up and need to be lubricated; the keys are just printed on ABS so they're already wearing out and they look ugly as sin (plus they get so grimy so quickly). the only pro on this thing is the volume wheel / media keys, and the f…

There actually isn't a Das keyboard with a Mac layout for there are no mechanical keyboards with a Mac layout on sale, period. Trust me, I've looked.

So no worries, I'll just buy a Magic Keyboard if mine breaks. Or maybe I'll buy the Matias clone of the A1243.

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