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Airbnb Has Arrived: Raising Mega-Round at a $1 Billion+ Valuation

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Re: Airbnb Has Arrived: Raising Mega-Round at a $1 Billion+ Valuation

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I can think of cases where startups have found no one to invest, and have ended up doing well. This is where something like YC can help, actually; we can tell people candidly whether we think it's the investors who are wrong, or the startup.

Yet, you (reportedly) weren't fond of the idea, either ...

We weren't. This is a good illustration of why you want to invest based on the founders rather than the idea. The founders we liked immediately.

Also, the idea was different initially. Initially they expected the host always to be there.

Re: Airbnb Has Arrived: Raising Mega-Round at a $1 Billion+ Valuation

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What is their revenue? How much profit are these guys making? How big is their team?

I'd like to know this as well (although $1 billion makes sense, they make a cut on every transaction, as opposed to Facebook which doesn't make a revenue on every customer)

Re: Airbnb Has Arrived: Raising Mega-Round at a $1 Billion+ Valuation

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I've been waiting for some time to call out Airbnb, and I think this is the right time.

Firstly, the idea of short term residential rentals is not new. Long before Airbnb major cities, Paris, London, New York, and Toronto were dealing with the issues and the problems of short term / nightly residential rentals. In fact the latest condo boom in Toronto has been ascribed to international investors buying condos explicitly for this quasi-hotel rental market. Many cities have been passing local laws trying to prohibit this type of rental use for residences because they carry a whole host of problems. Some of those include -- emptying the downtown core of residences, artificially increasing housing costs for residents, removing the stability and security that comes from having permanent and community-invested residents, shorting cities on their hotel taxes, providing unlicensed locations for short term illicit activities, etc. So by increasing the market in these short term rentals, the communities will also feel the increase in the unfortunate side effects of these short term rental impacts. These are long term market problems that Airbnb will have to address.

Secondly, it's not a new idea because in the recent past, these rentals were managed by hotel brokers. So in that respect, Airbnb major idea is simply to replace the traditional broker that used to handle the short term rentals with a direct owner to renter model. Across the internet we see great success in online services removing brokerage inefficiencies to various markets, and for this they should be congratulated, but not overly so.

And finally, about their execution. Airbnb is not the market leader. In fact --http://www.vrbo.com/ is. This is what amazes me the most. Vrbo (I have no professional relationship or otherwise) regularly get better reviews in online discussion boards comparing the two services. Their price structure is much more competitive, their review structure is much more robust, in fact aside from Airbnb's more sophisticated visual design, Vrbo leads in many segment of this space.

So, to what do I think Airbnb's success comes from? I think it's Airbnb's marketing / hype / buzz that has been carefully choreographed to maximize their valuation. And to this, I congratulate Airbnb on their latest success, and to a dance well done.

Re: Airbnb Has Arrived: Raising Mega-Round at a $1 Billion+ Valuation

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can think of cases where startups have found no one to invest, and have ended up doing well. This is where something like YC can help, actually; we can tell people candidly whether we think it's the investors who are wrong, or the startup.

Why are you more likely to be able to accurately judge a startup than other potential investors?

I have so much more data. I've been watching their trajectory for 4 months, while other investors (especially those that chose not to invest) may only have seen them for a few minutes at Demo Day.

Re: Airbnb Has Arrived: Raising Mega-Round at a $1 Billion+ Valuation

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Fred Wilson was one of the VCs who passed on his opportunity to invest in Airbnb - his musings on that opportunity, and learning from it, are well worth a read - http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2011/03/airbnb.html

I wonder if he's had an opportunity to invest since then?

Re: Airbnb Has Arrived: Raising Mega-Round at a $1 Billion+ Valuation

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can think of cases where startups have found no one to invest, and have ended up doing well. This is where something like YC can help, actually; we can tell people candidly whether we think it's the investors who are wrong, or the startup.

Why are you more likely to be able to accurately judge a startup than other potential investors?

Many investors view a company based on how much of a multiplier it can offer them on their investment. Is this a 2x money maker for me or a 10x? If I'm only interested in the 10x home runs then a 2x company may look like a bad idea to me.

Re: Airbnb Has Arrived: Raising Mega-Round at a $1 Billion+ Valuation

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can think of cases where startups have found no one to invest, and have ended up doing well. This is where something like YC can help, actually; we can tell people candidly whether we think it's the investors who are wrong, or the startup.

> we can tell people candidly whether we think it's the investors who are wrong, or the startup. If YC chooses to invest in an applicant, it probably offers great advice to the start-up. If it chooses not to, would you consider that rejection candid advice that the start-up is wrong?

Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Sometimes we're just not sure. We try to distinguish in the email we send after the interview.

Re: Airbnb Has Arrived: Raising Mega-Round at a $1 Billion+ Valuation

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet, you (reportedly) weren't fond of the idea, either ...

We weren't. This is a good illustration of why you want to invest based on the founders rather than the idea. The founders we liked immediately. Also, the idea was different initially. Initially they expected the host always to be there.

"Because otherwise who will cook the breakfast???", Brian asked once...
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