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Spotify patent would suggest songs based on users' emotions

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#41

Anyone remember Songza or Grooveshark? That was so beautiful. Makes Spotify and Pandora look a fool. What Spotify or Google Music Apple Music should be doing is what Songza was doing. Time of day, weather, genre, what do you want to do? -> Go I miss this! http://appadvice.com/appnn/2012/06/songza-goes-universal-wit...

Adds rdio and last.fm (pre-Viacom acquisition) to the list, so many lost apps.

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#42

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How do we make it less scary?

Stop believing that just because we can do something, we have an intrinsic right to do something. We should also probably stop letting “shareholder value” drive our morals.

> Stop believing that just because we can do something, we have an intrinsic right to do something.

Where you draw the line isn't agreed upon by any means, so someone somewhere will end up doing it. In fact, there's no doubt that every nuclear-capable government is doing top-secret neuroscience research with the intent of figuring out how the brain works and utilizing that to extract information and manipulate POW or political rivals. The little public newsworthy neuroscience work that's out there[0] is the portion being paid for by corporate interests which actually don't have too much to gain from it in the near future, at least until the tech gets cheap enough to be implanted in either a phone or a car.

0: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/01/mind-reading-algorit...

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#43

Future looks scary my friend.... future of tech is scary.

How do we make it less scary?

Start working on your own alternative platform.

You, as a hacker, have a responsibility to your community, family, friends, to build an alternative platform for them.

If you refuse this responsibility, you are failing your own family and community, and leaving them to suffer all the consequences.

You can't realistically tell your family to quit Service X, no matter how fucking bad it is, unless you're willing to provide them with an alternative, hardware and all, including either a replicated experience or on-demand support.

If you can't build an alternative to Service X, you must start teaching yourself immediately until you are able to do it.

I'm just a messenger, don't blame me for the current reality.

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#44

Here is the referenced July paper [1]. Spotify has a very cool feature called Community [2] where users can talk about what they want Spotify to do. The most upvoted ideas are things like "change my username" or "filter explicit songs." My personal wishlist is a "don't play this song again" button [3] and native Homepod support [4]. The point is that users aren't asking for Spotify to interpret their emotional state,…

Yeah, I gave up on my subscription after I couldn't figure out how to list all the songs by a given musician. It's a simple feature that's part of all the music software that I've used before: Winamp, iTunes, Amarok, Gnome Music. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Spotify would do better to get back to basics on song suggestion instead of trying to guess emotional state - Pandora still finds similar songs by musical elements better than Spotify. A good example to try is to select a song that is out of genre for an artist - an acoustic version of a song that usually doesn't do acoustic for example. The suggestions for similar songs from Spotify all have to do with the artist ge…

Spotify has all of their resources focused on podcasts, because that's where they'll be able to become a real aggregator and start making Real Money. It's a damn shame because the open nature of podcasts is one of the most appealing things about them. I get where they're coming from though. If they weren't spending ungodly amounts of cash on podcasts (cough joe rogan) they could probably buy pandora (just guessing, n…

I don't understand this business model. How does taking podcasts (something people are used to getting for free with few or no ads) and breaking the currently open ecosystem there is around them benefit anyone, least of all Spotify themselves?

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This is one of those features that is good marketing because it makes headlines about their product.

It doesn't have to actually work particularly well (beyond what you can get with a pretty obvious guess), and probably won't. But it captures the media's attention and the public's imagination, just to claim that you're doing this.

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Spotify has all of their resources focused on podcasts, because that's where they'll be able to become a real aggregator and start making Real Money. It's a damn shame because the open nature of podcasts is one of the most appealing things about them. I get where they're coming from though. If they weren't spending ungodly amounts of cash on podcasts (cough joe rogan) they could probably buy pandora (just guessing, n…

I don't understand this business model. How does taking podcasts (something people are used to getting for free with few or no ads) and breaking the currently open ecosystem there is around them benefit anyone, least of all Spotify themselves?

I assume they believe exclusive podcasts will gain them paying subscribers. Of course by fracturing the open ecosystem they may find themselves unable to acquire some podcasts, but given that they are a large player they are well positioned to out bid the competition.
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