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Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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Not being in the US I don't know this but can Robinhood be sued, like a lot of people seem to be calling for, just for refusing to handle trades on a stock?

Which can be viewed as market manipulation. I'm not in US either but it looks pretty dodgy on their part. A key message of all these new trading platforms is that your capital is at risk. Their users know this, so why are they restricting trades?

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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hide/flag the post and move on

I agree with the comment above yours, HN turned into Reddit for the last week.

you might enjoy reading n-gate - a weekly satirical review of hacker news. They'll surely have a nice post about GME, AMC and others.

I strongly predict it will end with:

"And no technology was discussed"

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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While the title might be true for the "amateur investors" that got in early, I strongly believe that most of them are not outwitting anyone and will be bagholders. As of this post basically everyone who bought yesterday are underwater by 50%.

depends on when the positions are liquidated. everyone who bought yesterday is fighting exchanges whose only option for GME is "sell" because buying is restricted. I don't know how some of these shorts will find 20 million shares by tomorrow.

Sorry for ignorant question here not acquainted to stock market mechanisms, but: why the time imposition of tomorrow? Who dictates that storters have to return shares and when?

Frankly I thought with puts you state time limits, and with shorts you decide for yourself when you’ll have to give shares back. If that is not so, then I guess I finally understand why everyone says shorts are super risky.

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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depends on when the positions are liquidated. everyone who bought yesterday is fighting exchanges whose only option for GME is "sell" because buying is restricted. I don't know how some of these shorts will find 20 million shares by tomorrow.

>I don't know how some of these shorts will find 20 million shares by tomorrow. you're confusing shorts with options. shorts don't expire. They can be held indefinitely as long as you have the margin to keep up with the losses.

Shorts don't expire, but the short sellers can call in on that short and there's also interest at exceptionally high rates.

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

#45

Not being in the US I don't know this but can Robinhood be sued, like a lot of people seem to be calling for, just for refusing to handle trades on a stock?

Robinhood is a private company, and are allowed to decide what types of people they want to let trade on their platform.

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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post #34

> "This isn't investing, this is gambling" Yep. Agreed. Spot-on. That's what Wall St does. If you don't like it, try and stop it. But for everyone, including the hedge funds. Treating the derivatives markets like a casino (and taxing appropriately) sounds like a great idea.

I get this knee jerk reaction but there is something to be said about the risk analysis, sophistication, etc of said hedge funds. They’re not gambling in the same sense, but sure in some sense they are. Even having an entry level “risk model” is more sophistication than most home traders. You can’t just dismiss all that as nothing.

Yet somehow they've been outwitted by a bunch of Redittors. Maybe you're giving them to much credit.

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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post #34

> "This isn't investing, this is gambling" Yep. Agreed. Spot-on. That's what Wall St does. If you don't like it, try and stop it. But for everyone, including the hedge funds. Treating the derivatives markets like a casino (and taxing appropriately) sounds like a great idea.

I get this knee jerk reaction but there is something to be said about the risk analysis, sophistication, etc of said hedge funds. They’re not gambling in the same sense, but sure in some sense they are. Even having an entry level “risk model” is more sophistication than most home traders. You can’t just dismiss all that as nothing.

These clowns shorted 170% of float. If that's not pure gambling teetering on market manipulation, I don't know what is.

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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Platforms are banning buys for retail, ofc it's going down. If rh and td didnt ban it I bet it would be even higher.

But what's the endgame? That the stock will go up forever, so that the existing investors are perpetually being paid by future investors?

The endgame was that the hedge funds who overshorted this stock would eventually have to pay massive prices to close out their positions. Retail brokerages coordinated this morning to turn off buy orders in order to bail out the hedge funds.

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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post #9
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Platforms are banning buys for retail, ofc it's going down. If rh and td didnt ban it I bet it would be even higher.

But what's the endgame? That the stock will go up forever, so that the existing investors are perpetually being paid by future investors?

Just know when to exit.
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