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Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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For those interested, there are a couple of treatments available in the U.S. to slow the progression of childhood myopia. MiSight[0] contacts and low-dose atropine[1].

[0] https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-appr... [1] https://www.aao.org/eyenet/article/how-to-use-low-dose-atrop...

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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That's a tough nut to crack as everyones axis to the astigmatism is custom, nevermind the combination of powers to compensate for the actual focal issues. And all of those details shift over time, too.

I wonder if there is a way to "read" how elongated your eyeball is, detect imperfections on the surface level and create a smart glass that adjusts what you see based on these "customizations". Imagine training the brain to see properly, I doubt it will change in adults however. Even wearing light sunglasses helps tremendously but because of the socially frowned upon nature of wearing shades indoors and the long term…

Enchroma has a product to correct for varities of color blindness, but they overall effect is still sunglasses to those looking at you.

Like anyone with a visible disability it takes education and time to normalize things, triple-so for those with disabilities that are not immediately presenting.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Has anyone here given this a try: https://gettingstronger.org/2010/07/improve-eyesight-and-thr... https://gettingstronger.org/2014/08/myopia-a-modern-yet-reve... It claims that myopia can be cured, just like muscles can be made stronger in a gym.

It's making a mountain out of a molehill. Yes, there's some evidence that very rigorous, regular eye exercises can help delay or even slightly reverse myopia. Slightly. If you give yourself a headache for like an hour a day, every day. And the effect goes away when you stop exercising. This is something that has been studied pretty extensively. If it was actually a cure, it'd have been well-proven by now, and we'd al…

> This is something that has been studied pretty extensively. If it was actually a cure, it'd have been well-proven by now, and we'd all be doing it.

Untrue and faulty reasoning. It may have been studied extensively on biased populations, or the research may not have been funded adequately. Anyways, this is part of the "myopia is purely genetic" zeitgeist which is shoved down all of our throats in the west. Meanwhile, studies from Taiwan, Japan, and Korea show that myopia truly has an environmental component to it, e.g. childhood eyestrain and video games.

One may argue that could be because East Asian genetics are different from those of Europeans. I can't say exactly why, but I will say that the mainstream "myopia can't be cured/prevented" rhetoric has been extremely harmful for approximately 2 billion people on this planet.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Reads like snake oil to me. I'd love to learn how this devices reshapes your eye lens when not worn. There are methods out there that people swear by, but I haven't seen a drop of evidence. I'd jump at the opportunity if it worked.

There is Orthokeratology, which physically deforms the cornea via a contact lens, and lasts about a day or two. But it isn't ideal, and can have bad outcomes.

A day or two if you're lucky. If you happen to have corneas like mine, you'll get about 9 hours before suffering a fast decline:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21546732

No lasting bad effects for me, at least. I'm still glad I tried it.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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The "myopia is purely genetic" zeitgeist has been continually shoved down all of our throats in the west. Meanwhile, studies from Taiwan, Japan, and Korea show that myopia truly has an environmental component to it, e.g. childhood eyestrain and video games. It's also undeniable that myopia manifests more in middle class workers than working class, which indicates some sort of systematic environmental component.

Since the article is specifically about Japan and Asian markets, I must add this: One may argue that the discrepancy in mainstream scientific conclusions could simply be due to differences in genetics between East Asians and Europeans. This mainstream "myopia can't be cured/prevented" rhetoric has been extremely harmful for approximately 2 billion people on this planet.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Has anyone here given this a try: https://gettingstronger.org/2010/07/improve-eyesight-and-thr... https://gettingstronger.org/2014/08/myopia-a-modern-yet-reve... It claims that myopia can be cured, just like muscles can be made stronger in a gym.

I have bad nearsightedness, and anecdotally if I go without my glasses for awhile, such as when swimming at the beach, my eyesight has improved somewhat by the end of the day. I think it is a combination between using my eye muscles more effectively and learning to better infer what the blobs are.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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That sounds more like a set of glasses that are not optimal for your eyes.

Also sounds like the prescription is not too bad. Those of us with -5 and under do not really have a choice not to wear corrective lenses :)

It's fluctuated from -4.5 to -2.5 over the years. Currently on the better end I think, but I haven't been to an exam in a long while. I have friends with lower than -5 and from trying on their glasses, I would also wear them if my vision was that bad. Even at -4.5 the only major annoyances were street signs and confusing people from far away though.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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It's nonsense. I was recommended this as a child - any improvement was temporary, and at best this will slow down the progression of myopia very slightly, in childhood. Nothing beats sunlight and outdoor activity in childhood for reducing myopia, but if you already have it as an adult - you're stuck with it.

Doesn't this article suggest there's some truth to strengthening the eye to improve Myopia, though? While the "new glasses" could of course be snake oil - assuming they're not for discussion would suggest that the muscles can be strengthened/corrected and all we're discussing is an implementation detail. That's assuming these glasses actually work in this fashion, though. .. and that they work, of course.

The article can suggest whatever it wants.

If it actually worked long-term, it would be a published paper on PubMed and ophthalmologists would be readily prescribing it to their patients.

I'm not ruling out a temporary improvement in myopia from exercises. Sort of like squinting or putting eye drops in your eyes can temporarily make you less nearsighted.

But if there are positive, long-term effects from simple, harmless exercise (spoiler alert - you can't change the shape of your eye permanently with exercise like you can with a muscle), it would be part of eye doctor's treatment plans everywhere.

But it isn't, so it doesn't pass the smell test.

Re: Myopia treatment 'smart glasses' from Japan to be sold in Asia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is Orthokeratology, which physically deforms the cornea via a contact lens, and lasts about a day or two. But it isn't ideal, and can have bad outcomes.

A day or two if you're lucky. If you happen to have corneas like mine, you'll get about 9 hours before suffering a fast decline: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21546732 No lasting bad effects for me, at least. I'm still glad I tried it.

Isn't there a period of time during this decline where you can't wear your normal corrective lenses because they are too strong? That sounds horrible.
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