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Egyptian pyramids found by infra-red satellite images

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Re: Egyptian pyramids found by infra-red satellite images

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Is it me or does news like this throw anyone else into a frenzy of daydreaming for a short while: using my computer expertise to enhance infrared images to reveal hitherto unknown pyramids (combining images from multiple spectral bands, SIFT object detection), battling with corrupt local authorities and looters, digging for the pyramid (and unfortunately losing a few of the team when the tunnel gives in), deciphering…

Obligatory xkcd: http://xkcd.com/208/ It seems we've reached the point where there's an xkcd for every situation (on HN at least) now. Maybe a corollary to rule 34[1] is needed. [1] http://xkcd.com/305/

Definitely! BTW, wetriffs.com is gone but .org is available

Re: Egyptian pyramids found by infra-red satellite images

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obligatory xkcd: http://xkcd.com/208/ It seems we've reached the point where there's an xkcd for every situation (on HN at least) now. Maybe a corollary to rule 34[1] is needed. [1] http://xkcd.com/305/

Definitely! BTW, wetriffs.com is gone but .org is available

wetriffs.com was registered by Munroe, wasn't it?

Re: Egyptian pyramids found by infra-red satellite images

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It's fascinating how many relics of ancient civilisation are concentrated in that part of the world. Many presenting puzzles yet to be solved.

On that line, by far the most intriguing and fascinating structure or relic from ancient human history is the site at Göbekli Tepe[1], in modern day Turkey. Shakes up pretty much every theory and timeline we have constructed on how humans probably developed over time and is much too early to fit in anywhere. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe

Wow! That's truly mind boggling.

Thanks for the great link!

Re: Egyptian pyramids found by infra-red satellite images

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Does anyone know if satellite imagery could be used to map ocean floors for this type of use? Or would the water disrupt the infrared wavelength?

check the absorption spectrum : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Water_absorption_spectrum....

Which also explains why the ocean is blue.

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I wonder how they get permission to scour Egypt with a satellite camera. And even if permission was given, will Egyptian authorities allow control of the satellite and the images captured to remain with a university outside the country? Anyone have a better idea how this process works?

I don't think you need permission to take pictures of a country from space.

hahahah! ok. let the Feds find you with high quality satellite photos of their military facilities. don't bent over for the soap when you eighty.

Re: Egyptian pyramids found by infra-red satellite images

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Is it me or does news like this throw anyone else into a frenzy of daydreaming for a short while: using my computer expertise to enhance infrared images to reveal hitherto unknown pyramids (combining images from multiple spectral bands, SIFT object detection), battling with corrupt local authorities and looters, digging for the pyramid (and unfortunately losing a few of the team when the tunnel gives in), deciphering…

my wild prediction (that will get me downvoted big time) is that if a professor at university can get high-quality infrareds of entire country from a "simple" satellite, then a new military satellite that was shoot month ago (secret one) can probably scan an earth surface and take high quality photos of people brains' tumors... in real time!

Re: Egyptian pyramids found by infra-red satellite images

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Denser == absorbs more of the light/different regions of the spectrum. This is detectable in the light that is reflected back. It's not dissimilar to how an ultrasound scanner is used to look at a baby in the womb. In fact, ultrasound is used in archaeology as well to do this sort of stuff, obviously on a smaller scale. This is the wikipedia page you want: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_spectroscopy Although t…

I am a physicist, and I'm afraid that the page on infra-red spectroscopy isn't really relevant due to (as you say) the very different length scales. What I think is really going on is thermodynamics. Suppose I bury a big stone pyramid under the sand. Stone is (I assume) a much better conductor of heat than sand. When the sun comes up after a cold night, it heats the sand, but the sand on top of the pyramid has its he…

Alternate theory: the material scooped and dumped to cover the pyramid has different thermal characteristics than the pre-existing soil surrounding the site. That is, it's not the pyramid that stands out, it's the covering.

I don't know, just formulating another hypothesis for the fun of it.

Re: Egyptian pyramids found by infra-red satellite images

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>... by looking at infra-red images which show up underground buildings.

Yeah, I have to: those poor underground buildings... they just don't hold a candle to infra-red images from space, do they?

Come on BBC, "show up"? We need a Ballmer-like "Editors! Editors! Editors!" chant right about now.

Re: Egyptian pyramids found by infra-red satellite images

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am a physicist, and I'm afraid that the page on infra-red spectroscopy isn't really relevant due to (as you say) the very different length scales. What I think is really going on is thermodynamics. Suppose I bury a big stone pyramid under the sand. Stone is (I assume) a much better conductor of heat than sand. When the sun comes up after a cold night, it heats the sand, but the sand on top of the pyramid has its he…

Alternate theory: the material scooped and dumped to cover the pyramid has different thermal characteristics than the pre-existing soil surrounding the site. That is, it's not the pyramid that stands out, it's the covering. I don't know, just formulating another hypothesis for the fun of it.

alternate alternate theory: the ancient pyramids, created and dropped there by aliens, are superconducting - they cool the ground above them in a characteristic square gradient.
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