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Parler partially reappears with support from Russian technology firm

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Re: Parler partially reappears with support from Russian technology firm

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Post by vkou »

DeonPenny wrote: post #30
killjoywashere wrote: post #7

Why is this anything other than direct foreign interference in the democratic process?

Easy amazon interfered when it banned a app simple because of the poltical leanings of the people on its platform. Yet it would never ban youtube or twitter even when violent foreign extremist those to communicate with the world. Do you mean that part.

1. Twitter and YouTube are both full of conservative content.

2. The difference between Parler, Twitter, and Youtube is that the latter two moderate their content.

3. Parler was banned because it wouldn't moderate violent content.

Your interpretation of events is incorrect. Even Parler, in their legal filings, are not claiming that they were silenced because they were a platform for conservative speech.

Re: Parler partially reappears with support from Russian technology firm

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Post by AWildC182 »

heshiebee wrote: post #34

I’m not sure where all this hate on parler is coming from. While Twitter allowed the trending of #AssassinateTrump and #killtrump plus all the violence and destruction orchestrated on Twitter during the BLM protests on hundreds of small businesses in America where far more damage and fatalities occurred then the capital riots and big tech especially Apple, Amazon and Facebook were quite about. This is a collaboration…

> far more damage and fatalities

Name the fatalities from BLM activities.

Re: Parler partially reappears with support from Russian technology firm

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Post by olivermarks »

First line: 'Parler, a social media website and app popular with the American far right'

Parler is/was essentially a free speech libertarian site with strict rules and guidelines for posts.

I find it disturbing that the overwhelmingly US neo conservative liberal media companies slap the label 'far right' on just abut anything that doesn't fit their world view and agenda. Any sort of recognition there are center right or moderate conservatives appears to have been cancelled.

Regarding extremists, It's the old story - ban it and it will go underground. Free speech is always better and is also a cornerstone of western democracy. The irony of Parler having to be hosted in fascist Russia is extreme and embarrassing for the western world.

Re: Parler partially reappears with support from Russian technology firm

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Post by hyko »

Parler is basically irrelevant at this point. Anyone can stand something up on the internet, but without mainstream technical and legal support it is politically dead.

The most influence it will exert is in mainstream news articles about its fate, and opinion pieces about free speech from American philosophy majors.

Re: Parler partially reappears with support from Russian technology firm

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Post by monadic3 »

strangattractor wrote: post #27
asdf333 wrote: post #12

https://twitter.com/davetroy/status/1327257161739677697 looks like there are some legit questions on Parler and its origins.

What will happen if anti-Putin posts show up on Parler? Will the Parler CEO get poisoned or the site simply goes offline. Any bets?

Fwiw, Putin has always allowed some measure of criticism. Which isn't to say he isn't a modern fascist, he completely is—but it's far easier to pretend you're democratic if there's openly documented criticism that is allowed.

If this weren't the case, surely Pussy Riot would have been assassinated a long time ago.

Re: Parler partially reappears with support from Russian technology firm

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Post by threeseed »

anewaccount2021 wrote: post #11
sethgoodluck wrote: post #2

Now 2021 is shaping up to be one interesting year... thoughts folks?

the US is becoming a risky place to host your infra. you can be deplatformed on a whim, as a result of petty internal ideological resistance anywhere in your supply chain. no infrastructure partner will go to bat for you, they'd rather forgo your money in favor of passing a regime's purity test you might also be subject to sweeping legislation that allows the US govt to act against you if you are not politically alig…

Anywhere with a strong, independent legal system e.g. EU, Canada, Australia, Japan etc would never tolerate an app like Parler being used to incite an insurrection.

Any countries without one e.g. China, Russia, Saudi Arabia would also not tolerate it as it could equally be used to incite an insurrection.

So very curious where you think this "safe" place is in the world.

Re: Parler partially reappears with support from Russian technology firm

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Post by hobs »

olivermarks wrote: post #43

First line: 'Parler, a social media website and app popular with the American far right' Parler is/was essentially a free speech libertarian site with strict rules and guidelines for posts. I find it disturbing that the overwhelmingly US neo conservative liberal media companies slap the label 'far right' on just abut anything that doesn't fit their world view and agenda. Any sort of recognition there are center right…

Strict rules and guidelines that were apparently violated, and they took no action to resolve - this is a paper thin excuse that no one should repeat.

Re: Parler partially reappears with support from Russian technology firm

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Post by lathiat »

mzs wrote: post #39

FWIW we don't know where it's hosted now, that's the point of DDoS-Guard, and the Reuters article makes no claim the site is 'hosted by Russia.'

Waiting for the first e-mail or API call out of the service to reveal it's location :)

Re: Parler partially reappears with support from Russian technology firm

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Post by PixyMisa »

AWildC182 wrote: post #42
heshiebee wrote: post #34

I’m not sure where all this hate on parler is coming from. While Twitter allowed the trending of #AssassinateTrump and #killtrump plus all the violence and destruction orchestrated on Twitter during the BLM protests on hundreds of small businesses in America where far more damage and fatalities occurred then the capital riots and big tech especially Apple, Amazon and Facebook were quite about. This is a collaboration…

> far more damage and fatalities Name the fatalities from BLM activities.

How many do you want? Because there have been dozens of murders, even entirely setting aside accidental and incidental deaths.
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