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Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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Post by eat_veggies »

surfer7837 wrote: post #25

I've just seen the screenshots from https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/15/22232766/github-employees... You just shouldn't be speaking like that in a company Slack channel. Politics should really not be discussed at work, and especially not in a public Slack channel. It's not the right place for it. It makes me not want to work there if they are discussing politics all day in a public Slack channel

So a Jewish employee points out (factually!) that there are nazis at an armed attack on the capitol, and to be careful, and then gets fired for saying that. You call this "appalling from both sides?" I just have to laugh.

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Post by underseacables »

nailer wrote: post #33
throwawaygh wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The employee made comments on internal slack channels warning their coworkers in DC to be careful because there were a large number of nazis at the Capitol. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ery62NKUcAY6DlR?format=jpg&name=...

Further: the employee was seen to be mischaracterising the protestors/rioters (take your pic) as nazis. The claims 'there were literal nazi flags' (see https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/8a1wytwIU2Ic52sok2ly14RUQNM=... ) seem to based on the very broad assumption that Confederate, Kekistan, upside down US flags, 'release the kraken' etc flags are Nazis. See https://qz.com/1953366/decoding-the-pro-trump-insurrectionis...…

How is that inappropriate? The employee should have stayed separated.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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Post by [deleted] »

blueplanet200 wrote: post #31
surfer7837 wrote: post #25

I've just seen the screenshots from https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/15/22232766/github-employees... You just shouldn't be speaking like that in a company Slack channel. Politics should really not be discussed at work, and especially not in a public Slack channel. It's not the right place for it. It makes me not want to work there if they are discussing politics all day in a public Slack channel

I don’t think pointing out nazis at the capitol is politics. Healthcare policy is politics, the election is politics. Pointing out nazis at an armed insurrection? No.

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Post by StanislavPetrov »

Its a little frightening to see purportedly intelligent people running around talking about, "nazis" invading the capital. The delusional, unhinged rhetoric that has been mainstreamed is another symptom of our fraying society and the widespread mental illness that has resulted. There are numerous accurate (and pejorative) terms that can be used to describe the mob on January 6th, but they were not members of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. The use of such delusional and hyperbolic language by the brass at Github certainly doesn't inspire confidence in the organization.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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Post by jakelazaroff »

nailer wrote: post #36
blueplanet200 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think pointing out nazis at the capitol is politics. Healthcare policy is politics, the election is politics. Pointing out nazis at an armed insurrection? No.

Can you show us evidence of the nazis? I can't find anything beyond somewhat obscure links between eg "Don't tread on me", "Release the kraken", the OK symbol and nazism when searching.

Here you go: https://www.vice.com/en/article/93wnja/neo-nazis-boast-about...

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Post by outside1234 »

shiftingleft wrote: post #11
renewiltord wrote: post #2

Wow, well, that's the biggest move any big org has taken on an employee matter in recent years.

Quite sad actually

Which part? It takes a lot to admit you were wrong, backstep to do the right thing, and then hold the responsible party accountable, so I'm missing the sad part.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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Post by marcinzm »

surfer7837 wrote: post #38
marcinzm wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't politics really as I see it, it's a heads up to fellow coworkers about a factually dangerous situation in their area. There were factually neo-nazis running about DC causing havoc.

I didn't realise they were all in DC, I thought GitHub was in the valley?

They are presumably fully remote right now and most large organization have multiple offices. This slack statement was from what I can tell aimed at those in DC.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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Post by outside1234 »

nailer wrote: post #36
blueplanet200 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think pointing out nazis at the capitol is politics. Healthcare policy is politics, the election is politics. Pointing out nazis at an armed insurrection? No.

Can you show us evidence of the nazis? I can't find anything beyond somewhat obscure links between eg "Don't tread on me", "Release the kraken", the OK symbol and nazism when searching.

There is quite literally photographs of some guy with a Camp Auschwitz hoodie on.

Re: Update on an Employee Matter

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Post by tyrust »

read_if_gay_ wrote: post #34
zaksoup wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to say: I don't talk as casually as this in a work channel, though I do sometimes discuss politics and current events. That's not because I don't think it's professional, but rather because I'm jewish and what happened to this employee feels like a very present threat. It is a well-documented fact that neo-nazi hate groups were a significant presence in the riot and preceding "protest" at the capital. Stating…

> Stating that fact ultimately lead to a nazi-apologist coworker denying it Where?

From the article:

>The current conflict began the day of the riots in Washington, DC when a Jewish employee told co-workers: “stay safe homies, nazis are about.” Some colleagues took offense to the language, although neo-Nazi organizations were, in fact, present at the riots. One engineer responded: “This is untasteful conduct for workplace [in my opinion], people have the right to protest period.”

Ctrl-F for that to see the screenshot with the full context.

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