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Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trending Topic

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I'm glad they halted that. But it reduces the common area we can even discuss anything going on this week in politics.

Taking a step back...

We've got these two sides. Regardless of the merits, each side believes they know the truth, and that the other side is delusional. And it is easy enough to engage with your media outlets of choice, and get your beliefs reinforced.

How can we have a meaningful discussion as a nation, when there is no apparent common ground? No set of agreed-upon facts?

Now I of course have my own very strong opinions and I'm sure I have a good comprehension of the truth. But that isn't going to convince anyone on the other side anymore. To people on one side, the other side's minds appear to be just poisoned.

A common tactic to try to get through to the other side is to just yell louder. But that isn't working.

What's left? What can be done?

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post #23

Why would a Trump supporter want to “hang Mike Pence” when he has been loyal to him for 4 years and just did his constitutional duty on the 6th ? I am lost for words

It's the same old extremist playbook that's been in operation in American politics since at least 2001. You're either with us or against us, no room for debate, our way or the highway, literal saint or literal demon. Then turn around and claim that your opponents don't want to hear you out or compromise, because to you compromise means getting everything you want.

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I considered trying to get visa to USA and work there, but honestly last year makes me really worried about living there is it safe to live there?

> is it safe to live there?

This varies a lot depending on where you live, your skin color and your socioeconomic status.

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This would be whack-a-mole otherwise, but when I saw this trending the vast majority of the tweets were sharing videos of people chanting that slogan in the Capitol amidst the storm. By suppressing the sharing of that information people are actually less likely to be aware that's what they were chanting (I know I would be less aware because that's where I learned about it). Now I guess there's the potential they were…

This is a perfect example of why social media is a total disaster and no one should be trusting it for anything at all. There are many, many things that seem to be taken as fact on social media that are impossible to find on any reputable media source. Maybe the crowd was chanting hang Mike Pence, maybe not. I'll wait until a credible source reports it. The AP had reporters in the crowd (getting assaulted [1]), presu…

Video of the crowd at the Capitol chanting "Hang Mike Pence", which was a trivial Google search away.

https://twitter.com/ExportedFromMI/status/134776388564682752...

Reuters photographer eyewitness confirming it was a common refrain and discussed openly.

https://twitter.com/jimbourg/status/1347559078831284227

Myriad videos from the day too of people shouting things like "WHERE'S PENCE?", sometimes at capitol police.

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post #43

I'm glad they halted that. But it reduces the common area we can even discuss anything going on this week in politics. Taking a step back... We've got these two sides. Regardless of the merits, each side believes they know the truth, and that the other side is delusional. And it is easy enough to engage with your media outlets of choice, and get your beliefs reinforced. How can we have a meaningful discussion as a na…

I don't know what to say to people who want someone else killed...

Re: Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trending Topic

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So? Just because a few people did something unacceptable doesn't all of them are like this. A while back a child got killed named Cannon Hinnant by a black person for no reason does that mean we should label all blacks as a terrorist?

When people use violence in the name of a cause then i think the cap fits. Also i think you’re making a false equivalence here. There is a not insignificant fraction of them willing to be violent because because they either don’t (or don’t want to) understand how democracy works. I think it’s fine to lump those people together as domestic terrorists.

>I think it’s fine to lump those people together as domestic terrorists.

You can do that, but after many people in power and including in this site supported BLM riots earlier this year this rings hollow. It's clear most people don't care about violence being a limit given that violence was used tremendously throughout the entire year in all those protests and supporting them was the trendy position among the elites, that now suddenly decided violence must be opposed at all costs and those who support it must be terrorists. Give me a break.

Call it for what it is, when one side uses violence it's good, when the other uses it it's bad, because this is a battle, and in a battle all that matters is punishing your enemies and rewarding your friends. I'm glad that this is becoming more and more clear as time passes and all pretense of principles is being dropped, and anyone with any sense can see that this is true.

Re: Twitter Confirms It Halted 'Hang Mike Pence' as a Trending Topic

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post #23

Why would a Trump supporter want to “hang Mike Pence” when he has been loyal to him for 4 years and just did his constitutional duty on the 6th ? I am lost for words

Welcome to identity politics!

There is "us", and there is "them". If you are not a part of "us" then you are an enemy. Some of the most dangerous enemies are people who previously appeared to be part of "us", but have now betrayed our cause.

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