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How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Re: How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Post by dominostars »

pedrolll wrote: post #28

I often wonder why the thought of moving somewhere far away is appealing to people. Leaving all this shit behind etc. I've been there. Traveled for many years around asia and south america, worked (fulfilling?) volunteer jobs etc. Then I returned home. Fixed all the shit I left hanging here and started to live a decent life right here. The answer I've found is that only people who haven't been travelling, dream of tr…

You said it yourself: you did it for many years before you got over it. Just because you won't do it again doesn't mean it's not something worth doing. People say the same thing about startups.

Re: How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Post by Stormbringer »

vertr wrote: post #40
hasenj wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's not telling people to do exactly what he did, that's obviously not going to work; it doesn't take a genius to realize that. He's saying that you can do independent work (aka "indie") and still get a damn good income that may even surpass your "job" income (depends on how hard you work and how dedicated you are). It's not really all that different from what PG writes in his essays. PG is just more specific "do a…

I think he is telling people to do exactly what he did. He has products talking about 'money making' and 'guest blogging', and the conclusions that he draws at the end tell you almost exactly what to do to be like him. Also if you read my comment you will notice I said the people who resonate with these posts are susceptible to magical thinking. I didn't directly say that there is magical thinking in the post, other…

I don't think you even read the article properly, you just went into a knee jerk "OMG ADVERTISING!!! DIE DIE DIE!!!" mode.

Quoted for truth:

" Every day, I get emails from students who say my advice has changed their writing. Every day, I get emails from clients who say my strategies have changed the way they do business."

Re: How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Post by dennisgorelik »

yeahsure wrote: post #32
dennisgorelik wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly: very impressive motivational speech... yet very dangerous. MLMs use exactly that approach in recruiting.

A colleague of mine signed up for an MLM a few years ago (He was broke at the time). He put massive effort into it and now makes more than $50K per month pretty much without working. Would I do it? No. Do I recommend it? No. Can it work? Absolutely.

I don't believe in "pretty much without working" part. I'm pretty sure he's still working pretty hard.

Anyway, I see your point and agree with it.

Re: How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Post by dennisgorelik »

blinkingled wrote: post #31
dennisgorelik wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly: very impressive motivational speech... yet very dangerous. MLMs use exactly that approach in recruiting.

There. You nailed it. I was thinking back of my mind while reading TFA - where have I a heard something similar in style to this before?

I guess my pattern recognition skill is coming from weeding out MLMs postings from my job board.

Re: How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Post by [deleted] »

Stormbringer wrote: post #42
vertr wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think he is telling people to do exactly what he did. He has products talking about 'money making' and 'guest blogging', and the conclusions that he draws at the end tell you almost exactly what to do to be like him. Also if you read my comment you will notice I said the people who resonate with these posts are susceptible to magical thinking. I didn't directly say that there is magical thinking in the post, other…

I don't think you even read the article properly, you just went into a knee jerk "OMG ADVERTISING!!! DIE DIE DIE!!!" mode. Quoted for truth: " Every day, I get emails from students who say my advice has changed their writing. Every day, I get emails from clients who say my strategies have changed the way they do business."

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Re: How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Post by vertr »

Stormbringer wrote: post #42
vertr wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think he is telling people to do exactly what he did. He has products talking about 'money making' and 'guest blogging', and the conclusions that he draws at the end tell you almost exactly what to do to be like him. Also if you read my comment you will notice I said the people who resonate with these posts are susceptible to magical thinking. I didn't directly say that there is magical thinking in the post, other…

I don't think you even read the article properly, you just went into a knee jerk "OMG ADVERTISING!!! DIE DIE DIE!!!" mode. Quoted for truth: " Every day, I get emails from students who say my advice has changed their writing. Every day, I get emails from clients who say my strategies have changed the way they do business."

In order for you to have an argument here you need to demonstrate how I 'read the article improperly'.

Re: How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Post by jacques_chester »

yeahsure wrote: post #32
dennisgorelik wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly: very impressive motivational speech... yet very dangerous. MLMs use exactly that approach in recruiting.

A colleague of mine signed up for an MLM a few years ago (He was broke at the time). He put massive effort into it and now makes more than $50K per month pretty much without working. Would I do it? No. Do I recommend it? No. Can it work? Absolutely.

I'm sure people on HN also know folks who won the lottery after playing it for years. The odds are still well and truly against you. Very few benefit, mostly the manufacturers of the dream.

Re: How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Post by jacques_chester »

prostoalex wrote: post #29
cmars wrote: post #25

Its a nice story but not everyone is going to be a self-sufficient blogger. He's an outlier.

It comes in waves. Few years ago everybody was doing search engine optimization and affiliate marketing. Wave 2 was people publishing e-books on SEO and affiliate marketing. Wave 3 was masses moving in and driving the margins down. Sounds like professional blogging is on wave 2.

I run a small blog network. There's basically no serious money to be made unless you're in the top percentile. From an advertiser's point of view, ad space inventory is growing faster than their products, so why shouldn't they keep on cutting rates?

Re: How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Post by delackner »

pedrolll wrote: post #28

I often wonder why the thought of moving somewhere far away is appealing to people. Leaving all this shit behind etc. I've been there. Traveled for many years around asia and south america, worked (fulfilling?) volunteer jobs etc. Then I returned home. Fixed all the shit I left hanging here and started to live a decent life right here. The answer I've found is that only people who haven't been travelling, dream of tr…

Of course leaving where you are won't fix what's wrong inside your own head, but likewise, no matter how hard you try to cleanse your mind, the stench next door will not disappear.

Re: How to Quit Your Job, Move to Paradise, and Get Paid to Change the World

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Post by mortenjorck »

pedrolll wrote: post #28

I often wonder why the thought of moving somewhere far away is appealing to people. Leaving all this shit behind etc. I've been there. Traveled for many years around asia and south america, worked (fulfilling?) volunteer jobs etc. Then I returned home. Fixed all the shit I left hanging here and started to live a decent life right here. The answer I've found is that only people who haven't been travelling, dream of tr…

Couches in alleys.
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