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Children choose to save dogs over humans, adults chose 1 human over 100 dogs

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Re: Children choose to save dogs over humans, adults chose 1 human over 100 dogs

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Children are ethically immature? Who could have guessed?!?

Or... Adults become so overly conditioned to accept that killing animals for our daily lives is normal, that we no longer register animal death as an ethical issue.

> killing animals for our daily lives is normal

It is normal. Historically speaking, not doing so is what’s not normal. The nature of this planet is that every living thing lives off eating other living things.

Re: Children choose to save dogs over humans, adults chose 1 human over 100 dogs

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, but the question is "is valuing all lives regardless of species ethically immature?"

The answer is yes.

Your comment is the opposite of what HN is supposed to be. You've taken up a stance, please explain your reasoning instead of stating it as fact.

Lots of reasonable points could be made to counter that opinion.

Re: Children choose to save dogs over humans, adults chose 1 human over 100 dogs

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post #8

Children are ethically immature? Who could have guessed?!?

Ah, but the question is "is valuing all lives regardless of species ethically immature?"

No, that's not really the question - the question is whether kids can reason morally, which they can't.

And it's not that they value all lives equally, it's that they value dogs over humans.

Re: Children choose to save dogs over humans, adults chose 1 human over 100 dogs

#45
post #8

Children are ethically immature? Who could have guessed?!?

Ah, but the question is "is valuing all lives regardless of species ethically immature?"

Regardless of maturity, it's certainly computationally untenable. I wonder how many millions of bacteria I've genocided in the last few seconds...

Re: Children choose to save dogs over humans, adults chose 1 human over 100 dogs

#46

I got a puppy when the pandemic hit, since I live alone and figured it'd help me cope with the isolation. This is the first pet I've ever owned. I thought that I would be able to "love" it the way other people seem to. But I can't, and until seeing this article I almost felt like that meant I was sociopathic or something. Sure it's cute, but I would also have no hesitation whatsoever in killing it to save the life of…

would you consider letting someone else adopt the puppy?

Re: Children choose to save dogs over humans, adults chose 1 human over 100 dogs

#47
post #22

This sorta lends weight to my hunch from watching hours of YouTube videos that mammalian toddlers have to learn to differentiate by species. Cross-species friendships between mammals from toddler to adult happen all the time in human-controlled environments, only in the wild is this more or less prohibited owing to adult animal intervention. Perhaps we can learn something about the reproduction of racial prejudice fr…

Wow. Your idea really inspired a few new thoughts in me. Is there any good books that talk in-depth about cross-species mammalian friendships?

Any idea about mammalian->other kingdoms?

Re: Children choose to save dogs over humans, adults chose 1 human over 100 dogs

#48

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I'm going to go for the kitten, but I'm aware that I'm probably in the minority. I don't think I would be able to live with myself if I chose to save an inanimate object over a living creature. And there's the matter that I am of the firm opinion that art being damaged doesn't stop it from being art. It just adds to the story behind the piece. Also, I fucking love cats.

I thought this was a trick question, wouldn't anyone with empathy save the kitten?

>I thought this was a trick question

No it's a pandering to the audience question. Ofc everyone would say the kitten to feel better and to show off (especially when the whole GP is about that)

Re: Children choose to save dogs over humans, adults chose 1 human over 100 dogs

#49

Scenario: You are at the Louvre Museum, suddenly there's a big fire. You are standing next to the painting of Mona Lisa that is about to catch on fire. From the corner of your eyes you also see a small kitten collapsed under fallen rubbles and desperately and hopelessly trying to get out. Which one do you rescue first?

the kitten, obviously. it may have consciousness.

I'll bet that if I saved the Mona Lisa, I'd get enough publicity that I could save hundreds of kittens by saying "If you'd like to thank me, please donate to the Humane Society" during an interview.

Re: Children choose to save dogs over humans, adults chose 1 human over 100 dogs

#50

I got a puppy when the pandemic hit, since I live alone and figured it'd help me cope with the isolation. This is the first pet I've ever owned. I thought that I would be able to "love" it the way other people seem to. But I can't, and until seeing this article I almost felt like that meant I was sociopathic or something. Sure it's cute, but I would also have no hesitation whatsoever in killing it to save the life of…

You're not alone. To be frank, I think much of the apparent love showered on pets by some people is performative. In public, people compete to show off how great they are at pampering their 'furbaby.' Pampering pets has become a fashion.
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