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SaaS We Happily Pay For

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Post by hef19898 »

ryanSrich wrote: post #34
scrollaway wrote: post #31

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I'm very curious about why you classified your "okay with" lower than the other ones, especially stripe which literally drives your revenue!

> Figma Figma isn’t very good. It’s better than sketch for prototyping, but not as good for vector. It’s also web based, so it’s painfully slow. I also think it’s a bit expensive. > Gsuite Google is an evil company, but it’s a choice between giving an evil company money, or using a terrible product (O365). I have to focus on the business, not wondering why Outlook isn’t filtering Spam. So Gsuite it is. > Gusto Gusto…

The only reason I have Microsoft 365 is Excel. Everything else I can live with GSuite. I also like to have my software and data on my local drive if I want. If Excel isn't needed, GSuite it is!

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Post by plehoux »

seehafer wrote: post #39
plehoux wrote: post #32

"Collaborative email on top of G Suite. The main thing we pay for is a comment box below each email thread. It allows us to quickly discuss emails without forwarding or copy/pasting in Slack. It also allows us to edit drafts collaboratively and have multiple team inboxes for invoices, support, and other stuff." Thanks for the mention Francesco. I'm Philippe, one of the co-founders of Missive [1], don't hesitate if yo…

ETA on further integrations, esp, HubSpot? Sick of paying Front an extra $20/user/mo just for that.

Short term roadmap includes calendar integration with Google/Office 365 (early January) + auto contact syncing with Google/Office 365 (end of January).

After, the roadmap is open, but we will probably start working on analytics before new integrations.

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Post by eikenberry »

system2 wrote: post #36
haburka wrote: post #15

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Considering that the effective salary of 1 person/mo would be around ~15k, I think spending $200 to make people more efficient is absolutely worth it

Sir, where do you pay $15k for a startup developer salary?!

I've always heard that, for the US, when thinking about salary you want to about double what the employee makes when considering the employers cost.

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Post by enraged_camel »

system2 wrote: post #36
haburka wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering that the effective salary of 1 person/mo would be around ~15k, I think spending $200 to make people more efficient is absolutely worth it

Sir, where do you pay $15k for a startup developer salary?!

He said per month.

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Post by NicoJuicy »

haburka wrote: post #15
bamazizi wrote: post #9

While I think it's great you're thinking of tools to optimize your time BUT a team of 3 at early stage project/startup level should be a bit more frugal and look for clever ways to save the ~$200/month you're spending right now! I understand you have your own SAAS and want to justify subscription and this is a good promo method. I've written on HN before that I'm TIRED of subscription apps, specially per user subs, f…

Considering that the effective salary of 1 person/mo would be around ~15k, I think spending $200 to make people more efficient is absolutely worth it

15 k / month? Lol. Perhaps in a very tech dense specific area in the US and then you have the rest of the world.

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Post by jtsiskin »

aparsons wrote: post #20
bamazizi wrote: post #9

While I think it's great you're thinking of tools to optimize your time BUT a team of 3 at early stage project/startup level should be a bit more frugal and look for clever ways to save the ~$200/month you're spending right now! I understand you have your own SAAS and want to justify subscription and this is a good promo method. I've written on HN before that I'm TIRED of subscription apps, specially per user subs, f…

Vercel billing per-user is so head-scratching. I think it's a greedy billing strategy.

It is, but it’s funny no one complains about per-user billing for the other products. All of these other products bill per user instead of by bandwidth and storage.

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Post by jtsiskin »

forgotmypw17 wrote: post #12
bamazizi wrote: post #9

While I think it's great you're thinking of tools to optimize your time BUT a team of 3 at early stage project/startup level should be a bit more frugal and look for clever ways to save the ~$200/month you're spending right now! I understand you have your own SAAS and want to justify subscription and this is a good promo method. I've written on HN before that I'm TIRED of subscription apps, specially per user subs, f…

One could look, at it as a form of dogfooding, in the broader sense of the indie SaaS ecosystem they're helping build.

I think this is probably a good reason. It probably really helps to see the billing, user management, support handling, emails, etc. from these other Saas products.

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Post by donmcronald »

bamazizi wrote: post #9

While I think it's great you're thinking of tools to optimize your time BUT a team of 3 at early stage project/startup level should be a bit more frugal and look for clever ways to save the ~$200/month you're spending right now! I understand you have your own SAAS and want to justify subscription and this is a good promo method. I've written on HN before that I'm TIRED of subscription apps, specially per user subs, f…

> I've written on HN before that I'm TIRED of subscription apps, specially per user subs, for no reason!

This is my complaint too, especially when a "user" is defined in a ridiculous way. GitLab is a good example. Unless you're on the top tier plan, guests are considered users, so if you want to give someone access to a pages site that has authentication, you have to pay as if they're a developer. It's frustrating.

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Post by systemvoltage »

Shhh... you can do almost all of this on Github private repos for free. Tasks and issue management, wiki, kanban board, discussions, ci/actions to trigger other stuff (send notification email for e.g.), storage of docs, revision control, tagging and organization, notebooks (with code too!), static hosting, support tickets, and so much more with Github API/webhooks :) Startup of this size shouldn't be spending a dime on anything but the most crucial aspects of what you're building.

You don't even need GSuite/Office 365. Just use Libre Office and git commit them to your github repo for others to look at it. About the only thing you need to pay for is $10/year domain license and $5/month/user for email service such as FastMail. Your SaaS webpage can be statically hosted on FastMail as well.

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Post by zwayhowder »

maccard wrote: post #25
frankdilo wrote: post #11

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That's not the whole list. We spend around $500/month if we include everything. We used to host our own stuff to spend less, like having our own Mailtrain instance instead of paying for an email marketing solution. But if you do too much of that, you'll find yourself spending a lot of your time doing sys admin stuff, instead of working on your product. This can kill you, especially at an early stage. As we scale our[…

Maybe it's worth waiting until you've scaled your revenue before committing to those outgoings? As someone else mentionrd, 10% of that is for scheduling meetings, with a team of 3!

If you have a lot of meetings with external parties (it's not about scheduling between the 3 internal) a good calendar scheduling tool is worth it in my opinion. When I was a sales engineer at a software startup we probably spent 10-15 minutes per lead sorting calendar times out. Considering only 1 in 10 leads turn into sales this was 2.5-3 hours per converted lead.

By having a self service scheduling tool we already filter for the non serious people "I'm not wasting my time finding time in your calendar" and improve our lead quality while reducing the back and forth nonsense that no one enjoys.

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