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Re: Producer of Netflix Three body problem found poisoned

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Post by RobertoG »

raverbashing wrote: post #28
isoprophlex wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also don't get the cult status. The setup in the first book is pretty engaging, the trisolarians are compelling antagonists, and i loved the power plays resulting from Dark Forest theory... But the storytelling just falls flat in books 2 and 3, with the overlong story-within-a-story and the needless romance plot. The... relativistic stuff (lets call it that to avoid spoilers) at the end didn't do anything for me at…

Agreed. And I'd also argue that while the dark forest theory is a possibility it tells me more about the author and their culture than an actual plausible reality. As much as humans have been completely horrible to one another in several times of history, it was always because there was "something for us" and there was never a complete wipe out of other groups just because. But yes, apart from that, the writing is po…

>>"[..] it was always because there was "something for us" and there was never a complete wipe out of other groups just because."

It seems we read different history books.

Re: Producer of Netflix Three body problem found poisoned

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Post by tyingq »

mellosouls wrote: post #11

I think it's a bit early to be assuming Chinese oppression tactics (though understandable). Incidentally, this book seems to have some sort of cult critical status; I personally found it very poorly written, despite the original ideas in the plot. I hope Netflix are able to turn it into something much better in their translation to the screen.

This article mentions "mycotoxins" as a potential accidental toxin in this type of tea: https://www.californiateahouse.com/tea-blog/hidden-danger-in...

Re: Producer of Netflix Three body problem found poisoned

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Post by whimsicalism »

peteretep wrote: post #21
AznHisoka wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you summarize what would make these books so sensitive/controversial?

There’s a long section on the excesses of the cultural revolution. The Chinese originals reordered the plot (and its reverted in the English translations) to diminish that aspect of it a bit.

It's not taboo to criticize the cultural revolution in China.

Re: Producer of Netflix Three body problem found poisoned

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Post by nkurz »

How does this series relate to the film and other series that have previously been announced?

As far as I can tell, there is a movie by Yoozoo that was finished in 2015 but never released: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three-Body_Problem_(film)

There is a Chinese produced series made by Tencent that (I think) is still in production: https://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/entertainment/china-t...

And there is also an animated series by Bilibili that is scheduled to come out in 2021: http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-11/18/c_138564215.htm

Is the Netflix version additional, or a replacement for one of these?

Re: Producer of Netflix Three body problem found poisoned

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Post by raverbashing »

RobertoG wrote: post #41
raverbashing wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. And I'd also argue that while the dark forest theory is a possibility it tells me more about the author and their culture than an actual plausible reality. As much as humans have been completely horrible to one another in several times of history, it was always because there was "something for us" and there was never a complete wipe out of other groups just because. But yes, apart from that, the writing is po…

>>"[..] it was always because there was "something for us" and there was never a complete wipe out of other groups just because." It seems we read different history books.

If you want to further the point provide a counterexample, otherwise it will just sound condescending

But I'm all ears on how alien civilizations will engage in costly missions to completely wipe civilizations out of their reach

Re: Producer of Netflix Three body problem found poisoned

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Post by yufeng66 »

geertj wrote: post #35
mellosouls wrote: post #11

I think it's a bit early to be assuming Chinese oppression tactics (though understandable). Incidentally, this book seems to have some sort of cult critical status; I personally found it very poorly written, despite the original ideas in the plot. I hope Netflix are able to turn it into something much better in their translation to the screen.

I personally really enjoyed the writing. As others mentioned, TBP was written in Chinese by a Chinese author. I imagine most people here read the translation, as did I. After just a few pages it becomes immediately clear that you’re reading a work written from the perspective of a different culture. This gave it a genuine ring to me, and once I adjusted my perspective I really enjoyed it. The storytelling, historical…

The original Chinese version is poorly written. The English translator, Ken Liu, did an excellent job polishing it up.

Re: Producer of Netflix Three body problem found poisoned

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Post by peteretep »

whimsicalism wrote: post #43
peteretep wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s a long section on the excesses of the cultural revolution. The Chinese originals reordered the plot (and its reverted in the English translations) to diminish that aspect of it a bit.

It's not taboo to criticize the cultural revolution in China.

The Wikipedia entry that says that’s the reason the two languages present the book in different orders needs updating then.

Re: Producer of Netflix Three body problem found poisoned

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Post by jgwil2 »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #27

I... attempted to read the three body problem. I got as far as the obervatory I think. It was like a year ago. I has exhaused because listening would make me fall asleep and then I would have to find the last remembered position... dang. It was long. Edit: a scene where someone comes out of an obervatory or what was it..... edit 2: why is this being downvoted.... i wrote an observation, didnt offend anybody, what??

I haven't downvoted you, but if you want an honest answer, it's probably because people see this comment as low value. People generally upvote comments that contribute to the discussion. This comment doesn't address the article or really say anything beyond, "I didn't like this book."

Re: Producer of Netflix Three body problem found poisoned

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Post by BugWatch »

Considering the utter hack job and the travesty that was the last season (and a half?) of Game of Thrones, David Benioff and D.B. Weiss really are not any kind of a selling point for me personally. I'm still incredulous it got made and released in such state. So, frankly, it's quite the opposite. What's the visual equivalent of "not touching something with a 3.048 meter pole"? "Not observing a thing with a fiber-optic cable"?

I jest, sure, but that bitter mental taste in my brain still remains.

Re: Producer of Netflix Three body problem found poisoned

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Post by RobertoG »

raverbashing wrote: post #45
RobertoG wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>"[..] it was always because there was "something for us" and there was never a complete wipe out of other groups just because." It seems we read different history books.

If you want to further the point provide a counterexample, otherwise it will just sound condescending But I'm all ears on how alien civilizations will engage in costly missions to completely wipe civilizations out of their reach

I aimed to sound funny not condescending and, obviously, I failed.

Groups wiped just because, would be the jews, the armenians and a long list actually (1). You could argue that some of them is because territorial fights, but is it not that also the reason of the "Three body problem" aliens?

About why alien civilizations could decide to engage in this kind of thing: if you are paranoiac enough you can frame it like a preventive attack, if you are reasoning that you will be fighting them for resources in the far future.

About how, there are many ways. The most obvious, though expensive, is just accelerate a lot of stuff (ideally antimatter), the closest to light speed as possible, in a interception vector with the undesirable solar system.

This is not the kind of thing I was planning to think about in Christmas eve.

(1) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_tol...

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