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Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by coldtea »

ido wrote: post #37
coldtea wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Tokyo’s population has increased 50% over the last twenty years and property prices have been flat That's because most live in glorified living room space, and many in "comfortable elevator" size houses...

That's the compromise you have to make to live in the biggest city in the world (metro population: 37 million people).

Is it? Sounds orthogonal to the population, as the city could just expand vertically (more highrises/scyscrapers) or horizontally (more land).

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by 411111111111111 »

Ygg2 wrote: post #39
sgt wrote: post #33

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But China is still rotten to its core. Eventually that'll backfire heavily on both Shenzhen and entrepreneurs trying their luck there.

Being rotten, never stopped anyone. The biggest problem is that money can get easily into China, but not so easily out of it.

They love to export goods, so it's still easy enough.

That will have complications in the future, but that's the next generations issue, not the person making the decision today that wants a nice bonus.

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by uS436aRs6BbC30c »

mxcrossb wrote: post #19
echelon wrote: post #11

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Austin, definitely yes. Boise? No way. There's much more chatter about Miami.

Isn’t Miami literally sinking into the ocean (unlike Silicon Valley which is figuratively gone Atlantis) ?

Miami is sinking into the ocean, and I say this as someone who lives in a part of Florida that is sinking into the ocean at a much slower rate. On the other hand, isn’t California sliding into the ocean?

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by twelvechairs »

supernova87a wrote: post #4

Can you imagine moving to the Bay Area in the 80s? To grow up when land was still cheap, before college competition was cutthroat and unaffordable, when relatively simple competence could get you a solid job and VC/PE firms weren't plundering and incentivizing the latest 30-second attention-span app to reach $1B? It would be me living in Los Altos now, instead of the old rich people who I curse for refusing to die or…

Maybe you should just be thankful for the benefits you have. Most of the world is not lucky enough to be capable of working in tech in the Bay area.

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by linguae »

I'm a big fan of Jean-Louis Gassée and I wish there were more visionaries like him in the personal computing industry. He helped push the Mac further during his tenure at Apple, and his work at BeOS also pushed the state of the art of personal computing. There are two major standouts in his career that I greatly appreciate:

1. His transformation of the Mac from the non-expandable appliance it was in the original 1984 Macintosh to Macs that supported expansion slots, such as the Macintosh II and the Macintosh SE. The Macintosh II series led to other expandable Macs such as the Quadra, the Power Macintosh, and the Mac Pro. While the Mac Pro would lose its expansion slots when the 2013 Mac Pro was released, the latest Mac Pro has expansion slots again, and I hope Apple keeps them if it releases an ARM version of the Mac Pro.

2. His work at Be, Inc. after his departure from Apple. I never had the chance to use BeOS (I was in elementary school during the heyday of BeOS), but I've read a lot about it. In my opinion, one of BeOS's most interesting features is its searchable file system. Indeed, the creator of BeOS's file system, Dominic Giampaolo (who wrote a well-written, accessible introductory textbook on file system design), moved to Apple after Be's demise and worked on Spotlight, which is macOS's search tool.

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by wazoox »

bsaul wrote: post #25
martin_balsam wrote: post #20

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Ops...my bad. I was wondering this morning why there seams to be a tradition at Apple to hire French engineers and executives.

The whole valley has been filled with top french engineers for 40 years. This brain drain is actually one of the reason france is in such a miserable state relative to IT economy. The only ones left are the ones prefering a cosy seat at a large established company. All the entrepreneurs have been leaving, and it’s a misery (another example under the spotlight now, although in a different field, is the head of moderna…

Also the co-founder of Docker (lots of French people at Docker too, from what I know).

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by shadowofneptune »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #28

I don’t know if Chris Espinosa still works for Apple, but I think he might have been around a couple of years before Gassé. He started as a teenager. I’ve been writing Apple software since 1986. Lots of changes, since then. I remember it as being a fairly “scruffy” little company; especially if you went to MacHack. I worked for GE, at the time, and the corporate culture differences were quite stark. GE was a “shirt a…

Did this change as Apple got bigger and then fell on hard times?

Also are you adding those proper quotation marks by hand?

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by ido »

coldtea wrote: post #41
ido wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the compromise you have to make to live in the biggest city in the world (metro population: 37 million people).

Is it? Sounds orthogonal to the population, as the city could just expand vertically (more highrises/scyscrapers) or horizontally (more land).

Haven't Tokio already done both?

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

shadowofneptune wrote: post #47
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #28

I don’t know if Chris Espinosa still works for Apple, but I think he might have been around a couple of years before Gassé. He started as a teenager. I’ve been writing Apple software since 1986. Lots of changes, since then. I remember it as being a fairly “scruffy” little company; especially if you went to MacHack. I worked for GE, at the time, and the corporate culture differences were quite stark. GE was a “shirt a…

Did this change as Apple got bigger and then fell on hard times? Also are you adding those proper quotation marks by hand?

I made the post from my iPad. I suspect it did the quotes. Let's "try" it from my computer...

Nowadays, people sneer at me for "working for The Man."

Being an Apple programmer has meant many years of being sneered at. No way to win...

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by mikerg87 »

supernova87a wrote: post #4

Can you imagine moving to the Bay Area in the 80s? To grow up when land was still cheap, before college competition was cutthroat and unaffordable, when relatively simple competence could get you a solid job and VC/PE firms weren't plundering and incentivizing the latest 30-second attention-span app to reach $1B? It would be me living in Los Altos now, instead of the old rich people who I curse for refusing to die or…

California in the early 80s wasn’t fun. We left SF in ‘83. Interest rates around 15%. Minimum wage around $2.50/hr. Gas rationing. you could only buy gas on certain days based on your license plate. There was an apartment above a garage in SF that sold for $200,000 that was fixup and the garage wasn’t part of the deal.

My parents moved us to they east coast where they did finally purchase their own home.

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