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Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by TedShiller »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #19
game_the0ry wrote: post #9

This article immediately reminded me of a video I saw a while ago.[1] The long and short - MS basically laid off the staff that tested Windows, and much of it is automated nowadays (I bet the MBA educated executive at MS who was responsible for that got PHAT bonus, at the expense of Windows customers and laid off testing staff, of course). Seems like it happened in 2015, which is why it seems that windows updates hav…

I know we're basically comparing anecdotes, but I've been surprised at how much more I've come to trust my windows workstation than my Mac in the past few years. I can't actually remember the last time my Windows workstation crashed outright (if ever?) but my Mac locks up at least 2-3 times per week. I also have to be extremely careful to avoid high memory pressure under Big Sur now, otherwise Finder spirals into a r…

I have the opposite experience. Nothing but Blue Screens on Windows.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by piracy1 »

game_the0ry wrote: post #9

This article immediately reminded me of a video I saw a while ago.[1] The long and short - MS basically laid off the staff that tested Windows, and much of it is automated nowadays (I bet the MBA educated executive at MS who was responsible for that got PHAT bonus, at the expense of Windows customers and laid off testing staff, of course). Seems like it happened in 2015, which is why it seems that windows updates hav…

WF and the army: We actually don't update. /s

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by reitzensteinm »

TedShiller wrote: post #41
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know we're basically comparing anecdotes, but I've been surprised at how much more I've come to trust my windows workstation than my Mac in the past few years. I can't actually remember the last time my Windows workstation crashed outright (if ever?) but my Mac locks up at least 2-3 times per week. I also have to be extremely careful to avoid high memory pressure under Big Sur now, otherwise Finder spirals into a r…

I have the opposite experience. Nothing but Blue Screens on Windows.

You might want to run memcheck on the machine. Windows is terrible in many ways, but having regular blue screens is not at all normal.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by sq_ »

causality0 wrote: post #4

I feel like Windows Update didn't used to be such a shitshow. Was I just not paying close enough attention a decade ago?

Just in the last few weeks, I’ve had two instances where I let Windows update and a whole bunch of system stuff (including Windows Update itself, once) proceeded to break, even through a few reboots.

Anecdote, of course, and theoretically I could have hardware issues, but things to seem to be worse than a few years ago.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by foepys »

_trampeltier wrote: post #34
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know we're basically comparing anecdotes, but I've been surprised at how much more I've come to trust my windows workstation than my Mac in the past few years. I can't actually remember the last time my Windows workstation crashed outright (if ever?) but my Mac locks up at least 2-3 times per week. I also have to be extremely careful to avoid high memory pressure under Big Sur now, otherwise Finder spirals into a r…

On work, I never had so much trouble, like with my HP ZBook and Win10. It had already once a complete reset, but still, I have a lot of trouble. Special since the new BIOS update about a month ago, it crashes once or twice a day again. In theorie Win10 looks nice. I tryed to upgrade one of my notebooks at home from Win7 to Win10. Privacy is one thing, but CandyCrush and things like that, was a totaly show stopper for…

HP's drivers are the worst I came across. We got HP Elitebook notebooks at work a few years ago and replaced them with Lenovo and Dell because the HPs kept crashing and slowing down over time. Their "utility" software like HP Sure Click slowed the whole system down and turned into nagware. There were at least 3 HP programs hogging the tray area and made discovery of my actually wanted tray icons hard. On top of that the fans just didn't spin down, even after a reinstall, so I were forced to work with constant fan noise in the background.

I never felt so miserable using a notebook before and dreaded each day I had to use it.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by leonidasv »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #33
runjake wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are people seeing ads in Windows 10? I often hear this, but I've never seen an ad (except MSFT's own ads getting to to try its new Edge browser.)

In most, but not all installs, the start menu pre-installs game ads, explorer advertises for onedrive, and the lock screen advertises things on top of the pretty pictures.

What drives me nuts is that those ads are also present in the "Pro" edition as well. I could understand MSFT pushing games into start menu for Home users, but doing so for Pro licences is outrageous.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by cwyers »

game_the0ry wrote: post #28
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know we're basically comparing anecdotes, but I've been surprised at how much more I've come to trust my windows workstation than my Mac in the past few years. I can't actually remember the last time my Windows workstation crashed outright (if ever?) but my Mac locks up at least 2-3 times per week. I also have to be extremely careful to avoid high memory pressure under Big Sur now, otherwise Finder spirals into a r…

Fair enough, but to be clear - I am not saying that apple software and products are free from problems. Far from it - butterfly keyboard, for example. I am just saying Apple, for me, has the most reliable and consistent experience. And I have tried most options: - windows, linux, and macos for my personal and work machines - android, ios, and even windows phone (remember that?) So far, may experience has been the opp…

I don't really know if this is a head's up comparison -- Apple maintains very tight control over their hardware compared to Windows. So you're trading off, in that Microsoft has to manage an ecosystem with much greater complexity, but you have a blessed path for using Nvidia graphics cards.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Post by sumoboy »

I ran into what I believe was this issue last week, BSOD stating Stop error NTFS File System. Couldn't boot, startup repair did nothing, and then the worst thing occurred was no restore points were available. Even if system restore is ON it will periodically remove/clean them up which I never knew. Since reading about this issue I was trying to recall my steps of recovery frustration, but I think ended from the startup repair opening up the command prompt and issuing a chkdsk and rebooting a few times initiating automatic repair and finally came back to life.
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