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Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

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Re: Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

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It seems like a farm could increase their productivity by letting these run autonomously at night and continuing to use human drivers with their old equipment during the day.

Or buy multiple to alternate, and just keep a mechanic and a tiny fraction of your prior workforce around for special cases

Re: Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

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Once John Deere starting DRM’ing their tractors it just screams entrenched monopoly. But where’s the barrier to entry? AI is going to dramatically alter this competitive landscape and John Deere’s DRM is not going to to stop it. Honestly, I love watching these companies drive nails into their own coffins. I was on the Google homepage today on my iPhone and was getting popups advertising Chrome (on the homepage!) and…

It’s not enough to exist. You actually have to perform at least comparably, which DDG doesn’t unfortunately.

Re: Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

#43

Progress yes, but at a peak of 70hp it won't be plowing much more than a hobby garden. Autonomous operation is all well and good but expect resistance. Look at how many farmers are injured by tractor equipment. They will rightly fear driverless tractors.

Before electric motors, factories used to have a single giant coal engine that used pulleys and crankshafts to distribute that power all across the factory. When electric motors became available, they replaced that single giant coal engine with a single giant electric motor. They got their lunch eaten by people who built new factories with electric motors at every station, distributing the power using wire. These tra…

>50hp tractors are probably cheaper and more capable and easier to run by a single operator than a single 250hp diesel monster.

5 50hp tractors are in no way cheaper than one 250. Soooo many more duplicated systems and stuff to maintain and repair. With the fleet of small tractors you have like 4x the number of hours tied up in service.

And before anyone say "hurr durr muh electric" I would advice you to google up some small machine manuals, look at the service intervals and see what you'll be doing the most of. Electric motors don't mean you can throw out your grease gun. The bulk of the hours on heavy equipment maintenance are spend on the business ends of the machine that take the abuse, attachments and drive-train, not engine/trans.

Re: Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

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Yes. I've got a 28HP Kubota L-series, and have been contemplating upgrading to an M-series, but even 46 would probably set us for a good while and lots of farmers around here still find use for tractors 50+ years old that are smaller than that. Yes there are huge JDs beyond that, and the M-series tops out at 168 HP, but 70 HP still seems way beyond "hobby" level and I'm honestly and genuinely surprised to see it call…

I think it depends on the kind of crops grown. Combines, grain bins, harvesters etc are a whole diff ball game when it comes to grain or corn on 1000+ acres for commodity crop farms

Oh, absolutely. There are major farms operating on a completely different scale for mass staple crops, and bless them because it's an efficient backbone to a lot of our core foods. But I don't think the continued existence of small farms is that obscure either is it? This is now 3 year old (2017) data [0], and the last few years have been hard. But it's not that out of date yet nor did it shift that much from 2012 [1], the overwhelming majority of the few million farms in America are small family owned operations with I guess I'm just kind of fascinated the first few comments on something like this would be about it being "hobbyist". Anything that could lower operating costs and externalities for small farms also deserves a bit more positive attention.

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0: https://www.usfarmdata.com/percentage-of-small-medium-and-la...

1: https://www.nass.usda.gov/Publications/Highlights/2016/Small...

Re: Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

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It would be perfect if the autonomy worked well in the dark, then it could just work at night and then charge during the day.

I’ve seen lawn mowers that do that. No solar charging, but it does cut grass in the dark. It’s actually pretty creepy to see the head light pop out from behind a corner.

That sounds awful from a noise perspective. I live across the street from a shopping center, and they tend to do all of their cleaning late at night, to avoid disturbing customers. No care at all for the sleep of neighbors when running leaf blowers at 11 PM.

Re: Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

#46

+ Really good idea to make use of the electricity in other ways than just driving. (generators, lamps, etc.) + 10 hours covers up a good day in field. - a lot of farms are away from electricity sources to charge and sometimes internet connection is non-existent. It is risky to leave a 50k machine on its own to do its job. And what to do if battery runs out on the field? - how long does it take to recharge? A lot of f…

>and sometimes internet connection is non-existent.

Starlink might offer a bit of disruption there, particularly once its approved for mobile usage. They might ultimately have an opportunity to offer plans/terminals specifically for situations like this too, dedicated application devices that need small amounts of bandwidth in isolated areas.

Re: Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

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A modern engine will run at full hp for extended periods, hundreds of hours. In many ways, lower power settings at lower rpms can be harder on engines than running flat out. In a family car, the cooling system would drop the ball long before anything as substantial as a head gasket. It would overheat long before any actual damage.

Hundreds of hours, perhaps. But not for the entire life of the engine. If a modern passenger car engine could put out 200 hp nonstop for years on end, every semi-truck manufacturer would be putting a BMW engine in it, instead of a huge cast iron Cummins. But I'm pretty sure you'd spin a bearing, or wear out the cylinder liner, or burn a valve.

If you tuned a semi engine for peak power the way automotive engines are they wouldn't last 400k either.

You can get automotive engines with similar power to weight or power to displacement numbers as semi truck engines. They're just normal automotive engines sold for industrial use.

Re: Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

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Once John Deere starting DRM’ing their tractors it just screams entrenched monopoly. But where’s the barrier to entry? AI is going to dramatically alter this competitive landscape and John Deere’s DRM is not going to to stop it. Honestly, I love watching these companies drive nails into their own coffins. I was on the Google homepage today on my iPhone and was getting popups advertising Chrome (on the homepage!) and…

It’s not enough to exist. You actually have to perform at least comparably, which DDG doesn’t unfortunately.

DDG is fine for many types of queries. It also doesn't have many of (what I consider) the drawbacks of google's search: hostile ad positioning, AMP, autoscraped meta crap. Pretending you can't compare them is ridiculous.

Re: Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

#49

+ Really good idea to make use of the electricity in other ways than just driving. (generators, lamps, etc.) + 10 hours covers up a good day in field. - a lot of farms are away from electricity sources to charge and sometimes internet connection is non-existent. It is risky to leave a 50k machine on its own to do its job. And what to do if battery runs out on the field? - how long does it take to recharge? A lot of f…

Not covered in the article, but in another demo the company says that they’re going to have a cart for bringing out new batteries and that you can change them out in the field. So if you need more than 10 hours, you can get 2 batteries and have it working 24/7 with minimal downtime.

Re: Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

#50

Nice! Are they going to spread out into other areas? Drilling rigs? Muckers? Something to replace the Sandvik rigs and fully automate drilling and blasting would be cool. They are already partially automated (pattern, depth) but require a human to operate. I think getting humans out of mines should reduce insurance costs and health risks.

They are actively testing self-driving combine harvesters in Russia, which makes perfect sense: large fields without too many random objects and mind numbing work for a human pilot.

https://www.foodandfarmingtechnology.com/news/autonomous-veh...

Also big-ass mining trucks:

https://techacute.com/zyfra-huawei-5g-test-autonomous-mining...

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