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Psiloscoby: Psilocybin Brewed by Kombucha

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#44

This is a neat idea but I'm unclear on the status from the site -- is this just a neat idea or has this been borne out?

If it's possible, why would this work over opioids or cocaine or NMN or other billion $ ideas?

Has this sort of thing ever been done with anything outside of tight lab conditions?

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#45
I have three friends who all have or have had hppd. I find this lax attitude of psilocybin worrying especially when nobody seems to warn about the dangers of hppd.

One friend of mine had it for 6months and was lucky that it passed away, the two others are in a living hell and will never have a normal life again.

I know its supposed to be rare, but the amount of people i read of having some form of it is too many for me to believe that there are a hidden majority of users that has gotten it and wont report for various reasons.

Re: Psiloscoby: Psilocybin Brewed by Kombucha

#46

When are they going to genetically modify something (yeast, kombucha, etc.) to produce a more unanimously enjoyable psychedelic like MDMA? The inevitable unpleasant mushroom trips will really screw up any ratings system these guys employ.

Maybe because unlike MDMA, trying to find a death caused by the toxic effects of psilocybin is like looking for hens teeth:

https://thedea.org/mdma-risks-science-and-statistics-technic...

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#47
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a neutral opinion on Psilocybin in general, but beware the selection bias in internet comment sections. Positive comments get upvoted and praised, negative experiences get dismissed with a mix of victim blaming (usually "set and setting" comments) or explained away as exacerbating pre-existing underlying conditions. Eventually those with bad experiences give up on participating in discussions. It does appear t…

In performing due diligence, I discovered several of the stock exchange listed shroom startups are paying pump-n-dump “analysts” to promote psilocybin across speculator, investor, and general social media. Not coincidentally, their penny stocks valuations have seen a remarkable rise over the past couple of months. I expect that we’ll soon see the dump part of the pump.

That sounds fascinating, would you be comfortable sharing a bit more detail?

Re: Psiloscoby: Psilocybin Brewed by Kombucha

#48

I have three friends who all have or have had hppd. I find this lax attitude of psilocybin worrying especially when nobody seems to warn about the dangers of hppd. One friend of mine had it for 6months and was lucky that it passed away, the two others are in a living hell and will never have a normal life again. I know its supposed to be rare, but the amount of people i read of having some form of it is too many for…

This is where I am pretty conflicted.

I have ingested numerous hallucinogenic drugs, most of them when I was very young. I can only assume that I suffer from HPPD due to the eerily similar symptoms that I experience on a daily basis. However, it appears to me that marijuana had much more of an impact on my daily perception and I experienced it as the catalyst that causes my aberrant perception to be considered a disability. Today I consume no psychoactive drugs other than my prescribed antidepressants.

That said, no one can be sure. There is no reliable way to diagnose HPPD since the change in perception could be caused by any number of confounding factors, and "a change" is not enough to cause discomfort, the effect needs to cause anxiety or disability to be considered a medical condition.

Even with this I really wish countries would fund psilocybin research because the number of unknown factors are too large for people to be self-medicating with substances that cause temporary insanity. "Increased entropy of the brain" is absolutely what it causes, but there is no reason to assume that the change caused is entirely beneficial.

Edit:

I feel like I didn't get my point across well enough or communicate all that I wanted to.

A component of a psychedelic experience is that you feel like nothing is ever "quite the same" afterwards. If you are prone to mental illness in any way, it is very easy to attribute it to the drug. It is hard to know whether the drug caused your change in perception, or it just made a pre-existing condition more noticeable. That however just gets us kind of into a chicken-egg situation of whether the mental condition would have had much impact without the ingestion of the drug. In any case, this is understandably an incredibly grey area.

That said, psilocybin definitely has an effect that lasts at least a few months after ingestion and some effects that last a lifetime as far as I can tell. In my case the shorter-acting effect is overwhelmingly positive, and the longer-lasting effect is mixed, but I don't really regret it. I can easily imagine this having a large contributing factor to my current condition and is one of the reasons why I warn people before taking psychedelic drugs. It has the potential for impacting your life and perspective in ways you can not even begin to predict, and I cannot emphasize enough how much you can not assume that all the changes will be positive. I suffer from an anxiety disorder that seems to be passed genetically, and this has caused some after effects of hallucinogens, especially the ones affecting my perception, to become VERY uncomfortable.

The problem that I have though is that psilocybin is also, in my experience, an incredibly effective countermeasure against anxiety and depression. It gives you the ability especially to change your behavior in very radical ways which can be essential in breaking the vicious cycle that anxiety and depression often is.

My opinion on the matter is that there is definitely great potential here, but it is not to be taken lightly. I believe psilocybin has amazing potential, but it needs to be researched and its effects observed as scientifically as possible before we have uninformed people (like younger me) ingesting it without taking the proper precautions and being aware of the possible negative effects.

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#49
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>...with cold and dark outside ... At least where I live it's also the season where you can just go outside and harvest them.

Liberty caps, in Europe?

They grow wild in Iceland's capital for instance.

Re: Psiloscoby: Psilocybin Brewed by Kombucha

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am sure other opinions will differ but if you feel generally secure with yourself and your life, I'd recommend enjoying it out in the woods. My friend has had some magical experiences with the sunset and the onset of the evening but it's not bad during the day, just less readily apparent visual effects, according to them.

Don't try it outside for the first time unless you've previously tripped. After which, yes. r/Outside trips can be so incredibly rewarding If you are going to try it for the first time, and for most I feel you should at least consider it. Please first do it in the comfort of your own home before venturing to r/Outside. This way if you're not familiar with the experience, and you get to a place of discomfort. You can…

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