How exactly does a movers-n-packers/goods shipping company become prejudicial to the sovereignty and integrity of India let alone not be in the best interest of the citizens? Like did they conduct a poll to ban Lalamove? Real baller move would be to ban anything with a China built SoC, if at all hatred for China is a reason to begin with.
India is trying to be china or to some extent US but without having the development of either of those countries.
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#42How exactly does a movers-n-packers/goods shipping company become prejudicial to the sovereignty and integrity of India let alone not be in the best interest of the citizens? Like did they conduct a poll to ban Lalamove? Real baller move would be to ban anything with a China built SoC, if at all hatred for China is a reason to begin with.
India is trying to be china or to some extent US but without having the development of either of those countries.
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#43Data is the new oil and India is just now fully recognizing how equivalent it is to an Iraq-style reserve; in this digital economy
> Data is the new oil This is a bad analogy. Oil is a commodity. Data are not. Oil is extractive. You can fly in tech and talent, pump oil, keep the rulers happy and not concern yourself with the local population. You can’t do that with data—its value, for advertising and influencing, is linked to the population’s productivity and power. Finally, data are ephemeral in a way oil isn’t. You can’t barrel up bytes in the…
>These data are subjected to sophisticated analyses to manufacture 'prediction products,' and are then sold into what I call new 'markets in future behavior.' Huge revenues flow from these new markets.
>The logic of this new capitalism is that we are raw material resources. We are not the 'ends' of the process but rather the 'means' of the revenue process. It is 'about' us, but not 'for' us.
https://sciencenode.org/feature/shoshana-zuboff,-part-two-re...
The oil analogy works for me.
>You can fly in tech and talent, pump oil, keep the rulers happy and not concern yourself with the local population.
Check.
>(Data's) value, for advertising and influencing, is linked to the population’s productivity and power.
You can still sell oil in Tonga, a country with very low GDP, but you won't make as much as if you sold out somewhere else. In fact if you're selling oil and you leave out the niche cases, you are losing money.
>Finally, data are ephemeral in a way oil isn’t. You can’t barrel up bytes in the middle of the ocean.
Places have tried to make laws to make data ephemeral, because it is generally not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten
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#44How exactly does a movers-n-packers/goods shipping company become prejudicial to the sovereignty and integrity of India let alone not be in the best interest of the citizens? Like did they conduct a poll to ban Lalamove? Real baller move would be to ban anything with a China built SoC, if at all hatred for China is a reason to begin with.
movers-n-packers/goods shipping company is a front end to a sophisticated intelligence gathering &e spionage program of china. Just like how HUAWEI is threat to US. Nobody is dying by banning bunch of games, chill !!
Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps
#45Data is the new oil and India is just now fully recognizing how equivalent it is to an Iraq-style reserve; in this digital economy
> Data is the new oil This is a bad analogy. Oil is a commodity. Data are not. Oil is extractive. You can fly in tech and talent, pump oil, keep the rulers happy and not concern yourself with the local population. You can’t do that with data—its value, for advertising and influencing, is linked to the population’s productivity and power. Finally, data are ephemeral in a way oil isn’t. You can’t barrel up bytes in the…
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#46How exactly does a movers-n-packers/goods shipping company become prejudicial to the sovereignty and integrity of India let alone not be in the best interest of the citizens? Like did they conduct a poll to ban Lalamove? Real baller move would be to ban anything with a China built SoC, if at all hatred for China is a reason to begin with.
Right but they are not looking for a baller move. India has severely limited financial , military or technical capabilities compare to China. They can't really challenge in significant way, so banning chinese hardware, capital investment in startups or military action is out of question. Banning some phone apps and calling it a strong retaliatory move against chinese aggression is the story fed by politicians.
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#47I wonder how long it will be until every country just has its own segregated internet. Will it happen on its own for economic reasons or will it take a real war that involves massive hacking attacks from both sides?
It all started with great firewall of china, didn't it ? The segregation of internet for political purposes has been there for number of years. (aka. china blocks FB,Google and wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_ma... ). rest of the world is catching up to their playbook
Having said that, The Great Firewall is the best thing CCP has done to protect itself, by a long shot. Had it not done so, China would be, at best, full of riots and uprisings and protests everywhere as foreign interests mobilized locals to act against the CCP using anti-CCP propaganda in their social media.
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#48Just the way we have import/export sanctions, I can see why we have similar gates for the Internet.
If we really want the promise of Internet to live on, then we ought to invest in more decentralized technology. Push for mobile OSs allowing other apps. As long as the reigns are controlled by only a few Mega corps, we are at risk.
Our mobile phones are an extension of who we are, but they aren’t owned by us.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please don't frame a political thing as inevitable, unless you want to contribute to it happening or persisting. "I wonder if every country will... how long might that take?" avoids that problem. Yes, I'm quibbling about words. In politics words aren't separate from reality.
I don't get the downvotes. This is a perfectly logical position. Looking back, the fall of the Berlin wall may seem predictable, but who would have forecast it in 1988?
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
movers-n-packers/goods shipping company is a front end to a sophisticated intelligence gathering &e spionage program of china. Just like how HUAWEI is threat to US. Nobody is dying by banning bunch of games, chill !!
I last used Lalamove to ship some furniture home from IKEA. I'm not entirely sure what the CCP wants to do with this information, but they're welcome to have it.