What M1 giveth, Electron taketh away. Sigh.
Indeed, can’t decide if I’m happy or sad to see this news.
Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon
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#42I am really curious why the response to Apple Silicon is so prompt vs when Microsoft did WinRT or ARM versions nobody really cared. What is the difference? Was there some problem in compilation tool-chain or what?
MS only half-sold their ARM version. It was a clear second-tier product and that x86/x64 was where their heart and customers were.
Apple has made it clear that ARM is, in fact, not a companion product line but the product line. This creates a lot more motivation for developers to do what’s needed to target it because there’s a clear value (for themselves directly or indirectly for their customers).
Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon
#43I am really curious why the response to Apple Silicon is so prompt vs when Microsoft did WinRT or ARM versions nobody really cared. What is the difference? Was there some problem in compilation tool-chain or what?
> Microsoft did WinRT or ARM versions nobody really cared. What is the difference?
Commitment. Confidence. Customers.
Apple has committed to Apple Silicon. Flagship products are switching. It isn’t an add-on or side project. That breeds confidence that Apple will stick with it.
That confidence and Apple’s track record make it likely there will be demand for software on Apple Silicon. This is compounded by Apple’s customers tending to be high-income and influential.
Good technical products can be tanked by bad business decisions.
Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon
#44I am really curious why the response to Apple Silicon is so prompt vs when Microsoft did WinRT or ARM versions nobody really cared. What is the difference? Was there some problem in compilation tool-chain or what?
M1 is the clear future for macOS, whilst WinRT/ARM was a non-committal side-hussle that may or may not have a niche future.
Side hustle is spot on. They didn’t fully commit because they were afraid to cannibalize x86 market support. Unlike Microsoft, Apple made the chip. Microsoft only worked with 3rd parties and nobody would touch Intel/AMD. Well, until now...
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#45Mostly I would just want Electron to disappear overnight.
If you don't want Electron apps, don't use them. It's not like they would exist without Electron. The people who build Electron apps are, for the most part, people who wouldn't build an app otherwise.
> The people who build Electron apps are, for the most part, people who wouldn't build an app otherwise.
It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.
Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's mostly due to the fact that unlike Microsoft, Apple is doing a complete migration to ARM. The developers have to migrate to ARM because they cannot just tell users to buy x86 macs like they could do for windows
but the M1 can run x86 apps via rosseta 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_(software)
Judging from history, that support will go away in a few years, like it did with PowerPC Rosetta after the switch to Intel.
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#47Is this means that VS code can be running on an iPad ?
Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon
#48I am really curious why the response to Apple Silicon is so prompt vs when Microsoft did WinRT or ARM versions nobody really cared. What is the difference? Was there some problem in compilation tool-chain or what?
> What is the difference? The fact that there won't be new x86 Macs in 5 years.
I say 2... future us will have to track this bet.
Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon
#49Mostly I would just want Electron to disappear overnight.
Well, there is some chance you can just run iOS/iPadOS forms of the apps (e.g, Slack) rather than Electron apps on M1. 's not as bleak.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What is the difference? The fact that there won't be new x86 Macs in 5 years.
I say 2... future us will have to track this bet.
The difference between Apple and Microsoft is that I can make a claim that Apple will stop selling something they deem legacy technology in five years and people will mostly push back against me by saying that five years is too long. If I claimed that Microsoft would stop supporting something in Windows in five years, I'd mostly get jeers.