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leges posteriores priores contrarias abrogant The Icelandic legal system operates on the well-established principle that later laws implicitly repeal earlier ones if they conflict[1]. So no, killing a Basque person would have been legally no different than killing anyone else. There was also a law on the books until 1991 that you could legally kill Turks on sight, due to an incident that didn't even involve Turkish p…
Maybe? I guess it depends on how old the law against murder is.
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Phew! Finally it's safe for Basques to visit Iceland again! :D Jokes aside, Iceland is a very interesting place, not just because of its incredible nature, but also its history and language, especially due to their very interesting and well preserved old texts, and also because they're so remote and insular. It's a treasure trove for etymologists and laypeople alike. It's also quite interesting to track the etymologi…
> Phew! Finally it's safe for Basques to visit Iceland again! ¡Ahí Va La Hostia Pues, Inaki! Europe has so many of these small disputes and treaties that make absolutely no sense what so ever if solely looked at through a modern lens and with no context. As a person born in the US to a European parent it was so odd to see these little details when visiting, even within Spain itself. Specifically, and relevant to this…
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#43As a side note, the basques are a crazy and lovely bunch, and they party like there's no tomorrow. I lived in Spain for 5 years, and 4 out of those 5 I dated a basque girl. Basques are really proud of their culture and specially their language that is, at the same time, highly "dialectal" (If there's such a word). My gf at the time was from San Sebastian, but lived in a small town near Bilbao called Amorebieta. She s…
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#44As a side note, the basques are a crazy and lovely bunch, and they party like there's no tomorrow. I lived in Spain for 5 years, and 4 out of those 5 I dated a basque girl. Basques are really proud of their culture and specially their language that is, at the same time, highly "dialectal" (If there's such a word). My gf at the time was from San Sebastian, but lived in a small town near Bilbao called Amorebieta. She s…
Your phrase in Basque is accurate, standard orthography would be "printzesen" but it's pronounced quite similarly and in many areas exactly the same.
Basque people are very social, and a lot of that socialization happens around drinking. Usually not as heavy drinking as in other countries, but lower graduation alcohol and slower pace, but it happens for many hours, so it does end up being a lot. The plus side, it's hard to feel alone around here. The con, of course the liver suffers, and the excessive social life can end up feeling suffocating (you can opt out, but, especially in smaller towns, it takes some effort).
Navarre was a completely independent kingdom until 1521 when it was invaded by Castille, although stayed as a separate kingdom and legal entity within the non-homogeneous political complex of Spain until around 1850, when it became a province with some unique foral rights. These days it's an autonomous community within Spain with some extra rights (critical: tax collection & budgeting), same as the three traditional provinces of the Basque Country. There are many cultural and social ties between the Basque provinces and Navarre, also a few lighter ones with the French Basque area, and the areas collaborate, but they are distinct political entities today. Personal, cultural, social and nationalistic ideas and feelings with regards to this are on a very wide spectrum.
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#46As a side note, the basques are a crazy and lovely bunch, and they party like there's no tomorrow. I lived in Spain for 5 years, and 4 out of those 5 I dated a basque girl. Basques are really proud of their culture and specially their language that is, at the same time, highly "dialectal" (If there's such a word). My gf at the time was from San Sebastian, but lived in a small town near Bilbao called Amorebieta. She s…
Very kind and nice note and I can confirm the precision of most of that, even the less-than-ideal things :) Your phrase in Basque is accurate, standard orthography would be "printzesen" but it's pronounced quite similarly and in many areas exactly the same. Basque people are very social, and a lot of that socialization happens around drinking. Usually not as heavy drinking as in other countries, but lower graduation…
If there was one word I knew I wouldn't get right, it was that one ;) I appreciate the correction.
I do miss going from bar to bar having a zurito.
As well, Here in Argentina it's very difficult to get "dry" sidras as the ones you have in Spain, and I love them.
Regarding Navarra, I knew about the complex relationship there is between it and the basque country; your comment about the wide spectrum of feelings is on point.
I can't comment about the rest of Europe - I suspect at least France & Germany, being the bigger countries over there have a similar structure - but Spain is really a group of several nations knitted together, each with it's own character - and more often than not, allegiances.
One thing I truly learn over there was to not call all of the Spaniards "gallegos" because of this, and I learned to appreciate and love the differences. But my heart goes to the basque country.
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#47As a side note, the basques are a crazy and lovely bunch, and they party like there's no tomorrow. I lived in Spain for 5 years, and 4 out of those 5 I dated a basque girl. Basques are really proud of their culture and specially their language that is, at the same time, highly "dialectal" (If there's such a word). My gf at the time was from San Sebastian, but lived in a small town near Bilbao called Amorebieta. She s…
That book is by Mark Kurlansky who also discusses the Basques (and Iceland) in great detail in his entertaining book Cod: https://www.amazon.com/Cod-Biography-Fish-Changed-World/dp/0...
I don't quite recall which one I read first (It was around 15 years ago, and my memory is a disaster) but I do recall that one of them took me to the other.
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Is the Icelandic connection somehow linked with the Basque national dish (and seeming national obsession) salted cod baked in olive oil? I went once and we were literally served it for every meal except breakfast. We visited a lot of different places and our hosts were always very proud of their particular method for making it and keen to show off their skills, but they didn't realise the last people we had been to s…
My guess is that cod is widespread in countries around the North Atlantic. Hospitality in a bit of an excessive degree and bordering on comical annoyance due to unawareness is an even more widespread phenomenon around the world, as attested, among other, by many Hollywood comedies such as "My great Greek wedding" and others :) Very glad you enjoyed it, and if you drop by Barcelona where I live now, I'll happily make…
That paella sounds nice. Barcelona is also a great city, great food, culture, beaches, amusement park on a mountain! Seville, Madrid, Cordoba and Granada, even Valladolid are also great. The only Spanish city I didn't like was Malaga. In fact, I think that in general Spain is excellent at urbanism and liveable cities.
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#49I'm Basque, I'm a very long time HN regular, and I love linguistics related topics. So I'm keen to see this, but I still don't fully understand how this makes it to the front page :)
Is the Icelandic connection somehow linked with the Basque national dish (and seeming national obsession) salted cod baked in olive oil? I went once and we were literally served it for every meal except breakfast. We visited a lot of different places and our hosts were always very proud of their particular method for making it and keen to show off their skills, but they didn't realise the last people we had been to s…
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> Phew! Finally it's safe for Basques to visit Iceland again! ¡Ahí Va La Hostia Pues, Inaki! Europe has so many of these small disputes and treaties that make absolutely no sense what so ever if solely looked at through a modern lens and with no context. As a person born in the US to a European parent it was so odd to see these little details when visiting, even within Spain itself. Specifically, and relevant to this…
Is there still bad blood between Iceland and the UK from the Cod Wars?