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Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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I just received a Pinephone Manjaro Comunity edition. 10€ is given to the project edition. Had I known KDE was next, I would have waited a bit! I already use Plasma on my laptop, it is a great desktop environment. I replaced Manjaro by Mobian, it works way better for me. KDE Neon did not work too well, unfortunately (it could not turn off the phone screen, and it didn't work correctly with an external screen), but I…

> 10€ is given to the project edition. Do you know where this payment goes to? e.g. is it to their OpenCollective or LFX donation accounts?

I have no idea, sorry.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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I'm one of the Plasma Mobile developer and I would be happy to answer questions.

Great to see that, congratulations to everybody involved. Is the hardware of Pinephone considered stable? How is the development on such platform, the same a on Desktop GNU/Linux? Do we have a permission system similar to Android? Can we launch easily background application and awake the phone when needed (for notifications)? Is there a documentation on the packaging system? How long can the battery last at the momen…

> Is the hardware of PinePhone considered stable?

There has been some hardware improvements between the braveheart edition and KDE Community edition. For example the convergence functionality was added. Afaik the Manjaro and KDE edition will be using the same hardware.

> How is the development on such platform, the same a on Desktop GNU/Linux? Do we have a permission system similar to Android? Can we launch easily background application and awake the phone when needed (for notifications)? Is there a documentation on the packaging system?

The development for Plasma Mobile is similar to the one on the desktop. You can ever develop completely on the desktop or ssh in the phone and compile there. Packaging system is the same as on the desktop and depends on the distro. Flatpak also works as cross distribution solution ;)

KClock uses Powerdevil (the kde power management deamon) to wake up from sleep. There is also the KDED infrastructure: https://api.kde.org/frameworks/kded/html/index.html.

> How long can the battery last at the moment (with mostly idle phone)?

Good question. This varies a lot by the software used and the distributions. At the beginning it was less than 2 hours but with a lot of improvements in the kernel, there was reports varying from 12 to 16 hours idle time. This will probably improve further with more improvements in the kernel and in the hardware stack.

I hope this answers all your questions.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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I'm one of the Plasma Mobile developer and I would be happy to answer questions.

Why not develop on snapdragon 865 soc and 6-8 gb Ram? I bet it would run really better.

Because no one has released an open source phone with these specs?

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

#44
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I'm one of the Plasma Mobile developer and I would be happy to answer questions.

It would be great if Plasma Mobile would look into supporting JetPack Compose which has been ported to Linux Desktop by JetBrains. Even if I want to learn QML there is only so many things I could do in a day even if I want to. Plus JetPack Compose brings huge developer base to Plasma Mobile. https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/compose/

If it works on desktop linux and has an UI that adapts on small screens, there is an high chance that it already works on Plasma Mobile.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great to see that, congratulations to everybody involved. Is the hardware of Pinephone considered stable? How is the development on such platform, the same a on Desktop GNU/Linux? Do we have a permission system similar to Android? Can we launch easily background application and awake the phone when needed (for notifications)? Is there a documentation on the packaging system? How long can the battery last at the momen…

> Is the hardware of PinePhone considered stable? There has been some hardware improvements between the braveheart edition and KDE Community edition. For example the convergence functionality was added. Afaik the Manjaro and KDE edition will be using the same hardware. > How is the development on such platform, the same a on Desktop GNU/Linux? Do we have a permission system similar to Android? Can we launch easily ba…

> I hope this answers all your questions.

yes thanks a lot! I'm considering getting this phone to port the XMPP client I'm working on on FOSS mobile OSes.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

#46

Any recommendations as to the best way to support this / other Foss phones ? This obviously includes how to get a phone but i assume there is other ways?

A lot of ways :D

* Donate: https://kde.org/community/donations/

* Develop new mobile Linux applications or port existing Linux desktop application to mobile devices

* Help us write our monthly blog: https://www.plasma-mobile.org/blog/. We are quite bad at getting a new blog post at least once a month.

* Design mock-ups

* Translate the applications to your native language

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

#47

I got my pinephone (Manjaro) last week and tried all OSs there are for it; I really love the idea of having a real Linux device in my pocket (that's why I have the Pandora, Pyra + GPD pocket 1 as well); it is such a difference having full control and being able to change whatever how you work instead of having large corps decide. Also shows, by the 'missing apps' between ecosystems, how much we need replacements for…

> then a lot more people will need to help with this. I don't know how that will happen

I wonder if community crypto-currency tokens could be used for incentive.

See explanation twitter thread here: https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1326313315044192256?s=20

Really, community tokens could be the basis for a true guild system. The collective community of token holders would represent collective expertise in a specific craft.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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> Is the hardware of PinePhone considered stable? There has been some hardware improvements between the braveheart edition and KDE Community edition. For example the convergence functionality was added. Afaik the Manjaro and KDE edition will be using the same hardware. > How is the development on such platform, the same a on Desktop GNU/Linux? Do we have a permission system similar to Android? Can we launch easily ba…

> I hope this answers all your questions. yes thanks a lot! I'm considering getting this phone to port the XMPP client I'm working on on FOSS mobile OSes.

Did you already checked Kaidan[1] out? It's an XMPP client specially build for Plasma Mobile.

[1]: https://www.kaidan.im/

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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> I hope this answers all your questions. yes thanks a lot! I'm considering getting this phone to port the XMPP client I'm working on on FOSS mobile OSes.

Did you already checked Kaidan[1] out? It's an XMPP client specially build for Plasma Mobile. [1]: https://www.kaidan.im/

yes I'm aware of it, I'm deeply involved in XMPP community (XSF member) and have met Kaidan devs a couple of times (it's a promising client BTW).

My client (Salut à Toi) predates Kaidan by years and is not focusing only on instant messaging, also it's not the same technology stack and the mobile frontend uses Kivy, which is well adapted for touch screen.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

#50
Love the idea of that phone! And would love it even more if:

- it had 3 USB-C ports

- out of which 2 were USB 3.1 standard with alternate mode HDMI capable of FullHD resolution

- it had processor that achieves in geekbench 5 somewhere between 1.5k - 2k points multicore at least

I know, I know - need to wake up ;-)

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