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Regardless, the wedding and reception behavior was entirely irresponsible. But the link between it and the long-term care cases seems tenuous, at best.
According to the article, the result was 177 infections and 7 deaths. That's almost %4 death rate, way over the official US death rate. Any idea why would that be?
Six of the residents ultimately died of COVID-19. All of them were at least 60 years old and had at least one preexisting medical condition."
6/7 deaths were from elderly people with pre-existing conditions in a long-term care facility.
What are HNers planning to do for the holidays? We’re seriously considering not seeing anyone, not even parents, even though my SO has had COVID already (she works at a hospital and contracted it from COVID patients). Stories like this are the main reason. Even if no one at the party gets very ill, the chance of further spreading it to others seriously scares me.
Pretty disappointing, Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday for seeing family.
I wonder if we could implement some sort of cap and trade system to make everyone happy? Everyone could be rationed a certain number of gatherings per month and then each person would be free to choose how to use them. They could use one to see family during the holidays, they could go to a protest, go to a wedding, celebrate in the street, go to a movie, etc. We could even track them as discrete tokens, or "social c…
How does that help? Stay at home for as many events as you want, going to one 'super-spreading wedding' is still no bueno.
I wonder if we could implement some sort of cap and trade system to make everyone happy? Everyone could be rationed a certain number of gatherings per month and then each person would be free to choose how to use them. They could use one to see family during the holidays, they could go to a protest, go to a wedding, celebrate in the street, go to a movie, etc. We could even track them as discrete tokens, or "social c…
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That's faker than a 3 dollar bill. Many, many, of the "signatures" have been proven to be people that don't even exist. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-... https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/27/facebook-p...
Are you trying to say the authors don’t exist because some troll entered a fake name on their website? Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations. Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine d…
The volume of support is of course dubious as the only requirement for saying that a "medical professional" was signing it, was a check box on a web form.
the challenge I see with the declaration's approach is that (AFAIK) it skips over the hard part of how "Focused Protection." is actually implemented.
It's super easy to write a web page saying that we should use "focused protection" to avoid heavy loss of life to Covid, and much much harder to design and implement a workable strategy.
This article actually demonstrates that problem. A worker at a care facility spread it to a set of vulnerable people. How would "focused protection" have stopped that? There may be an answer, but I don't see that information from the Great Barrington declaration.
It also demonstrates why the "personal choice" stuff is BS here. I see a lot of folks going "why are you worried if you're following the rules yourself?", and yet... > None of the victims who lost their lives had attended the party.
So... my body, _not_ my choice?
It also demonstrates why the "personal choice" stuff is BS here. I see a lot of folks going "why are you worried if you're following the rules yourself?", and yet... > None of the victims who lost their lives had attended the party.
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Honestly, I would be okay with someone being tried for murder over this shit. Isn't the death penalty supposed to be a deterrence?
It's very clearly not murder; that'd set really bad precedents. You might be able to pull off something like involuntary manslaughter, but I tend to doubt it.
Case count != actual risk of death or permanent injury. You have to be in a high risk group. I wish we'd evaluate actual risk rather than perceived.
Seven people died. This isn't some hypothetical where people are acting like there's risk where there isn't; it's a story of seven real, living, breathing humans passing away.