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Post by justinclift »

CodeWriter23 wrote: post #15
EliRivers wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you must know I was referring to contact tracing. I’m against it. On the face of it, that's an interesting position to take. We know someone has a communicable disease that kills, we wonder if people he's been in contact with might also have it and might also be spreading it and dying of it; finding out seems like quite a sensible idea. What's the objection?

Perhaps put the "kills" in the proper context of 240,000 / 350,000,000 and then evaluate the relative risk vs. sacrificing one's privacy.

Personally, I agree with there being no need for app based contact tracing. It doesn't seem to have proved real world useful anyway.

That being said, a lot of people seem to be ignoring that it's not just about who dies from this virus.

There seems to be a lot of evidence that a good percentage of people get long term damage from it. Including athletes and extremely healthy (before) people.

Hopefully some we'll be able to quantify that at some useful point too, in order to better assess risks, priorities, etc.

Re: TripAdvisor warns users over Thai hotel that legally pursued reviewer

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Post by ryanlol »

nulld3v wrote: post #20
ryanlol wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other we might as well view every year spent locked down as a year wasted. So with an average life expectancy of 80 years you’d be throwing away an entire lifetime for every 80 people you lock down. That’s a 1.23% death rate, it’s not yet clear that COVID is worse.

That's essentially equating being in lockdown to being temporarily dead, which in my opinion is an exaggeration.

Perhaps it’s even worse than death? Dead people can’t really suffer.

I’m sure lots of (most?) people would choose the “temporary death” option over being prisoners inside their homes, just fall asleep and wake up free.

Re: TripAdvisor warns users over Thai hotel that legally pursued reviewer

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Post by DarthGhandi »

idrios wrote: post #13
dkdk8283 wrote: post #2

Chilling effect. Imagine where the US is headed with online censorship and cancel culture. If you publicly disagree with controversial views you’re in for a bad time.

Depends on the medium. Don't ever say anything against the grain on Twitter (or really any medium that encourages media to go viral). But at least HN is (usually) a good, moderated forum where opposing viewpoints can be heard with judgement for the argument and not the arguer. A difference the US has with the situation in the article is the Thai hotel was able to get law enforcement involved -- I don't think the US h…

> where opposing viewpoints can be heard

there's a huge amount of overt censorship from people literally disappearing comments along with all the shadowbanning here that is rarely acknowledged, how sure are you about that statement?

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Post by monkeydreams »

treeman79 wrote: post #39
idrios wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on the medium. Don't ever say anything against the grain on Twitter (or really any medium that encourages media to go viral). But at least HN is (usually) a good, moderated forum where opposing viewpoints can be heard with judgement for the argument and not the arguer. A difference the US has with the situation in the article is the Thai hotel was able to get law enforcement involved -- I don't think the US h…

Been seeing more anti-free speech people here. Or maybe the censorship is perfectly fine as long it’s our team mindset. But if you keep your arguments here well written and reasonable usually it’s fine.

> Been seeing more anti-free speech people here. Or maybe the censorship is perfectly fine as long it’s our team mindset.

Or maybe, just maybe, you do not have the monopoly opinion on what "free speech" is and is not. In all of the examples given, excepting the Thai Hotel case, free speech is still assured. You can still offer your opinions freely, but no publisher is required to publish them. And, having published them, no other punter is required to accept them, and specifically accept them without quarrel.

Perhaps what you are seeing is actually free speech in all its glory! The 'anti-free speech people' have a right to speak their opinions just as you do. The fact they exist is proof that free speech exists, as it certainly seems that you would rather they did not voice their opinions.

Remember, freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences!

Re: TripAdvisor warns users over Thai hotel that legally pursued reviewer

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Post by dragonsngoblins »

idrios wrote: post #13
dkdk8283 wrote: post #2

Chilling effect. Imagine where the US is headed with online censorship and cancel culture. If you publicly disagree with controversial views you’re in for a bad time.

Depends on the medium. Don't ever say anything against the grain on Twitter (or really any medium that encourages media to go viral). But at least HN is (usually) a good, moderated forum where opposing viewpoints can be heard with judgement for the argument and not the arguer. A difference the US has with the situation in the article is the Thai hotel was able to get law enforcement involved -- I don't think the US h…

Just not saying controversial shit on twitter will only get you so far, as someone could just post what you said to twitter
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