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Summary: - 8 cores, 16 core neural engine. - GPU, RAM, Secure enclave and CPU integrated. - 5.x graphics performance. - 10h more battery life. - Thunderbolt/USB 4. Available from today, starts shipping next week. Price starts at $1299, or $1199 for education. Edit: 8GB RAM + 256GB SSD: $1299, 16GB RAM + 512GB SSD: 1499.
+256GB SSD: $200
It's $1299 + $200 + $200 = $1699 for both upgrades.
they haven't given up on the touch-bar yet, which is a bummer.
Still waiting for it to deliver!
What to to? Cancel it and buy the new one with m1?
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Seriously, it should be a crime to sell machines with 256GB SSD in 2020. All these starting prices look low, but those low end configurations will be a drag because of the RAM and storage decisions.
256 GB is perfectly adequate for many people who store their data in the cloud or don't create much of it in the first place.
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If you're not running VM's or opening hundreds of tabs in Chrome it's perfectly fine for everyday tasks. I'm using my 2016 MBP with 8 GB and have never had a problem except when trying to run multiple VM's. So 8 GB doesn't seem unreasonable as a minimum. You can upgrade if you need the extra, but a large number of buyers don't need it and prefer a cheaper base price.
Yeah but is this a pro machine? I'd have no problem with 8Gb on an "Air", but for a pro machine to be 16Gb max, it does seem inadequate
The pro line has always been defined by CPU and graphics/display capabilities.
Memory is there to purchase if you're in the subset that has memory-intensive workloads.
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256 GB is perfectly adequate for many people who store their data in the cloud or don't create much of it in the first place.
256 GB is an insult to everyone. And most people don't store all their data in cLoUd, just some minor, select stuff - that is why absolutely everyone has GBs of free storage from so many vendors. If most used the cloud heavily, those whole thing will collapse in an afternoon.
* only 16gb ram max
* only 2x usb-c port (connect one to charger and choose if wanna have external monitor on debugging iphone app via wired cable or... go with the dongles)
* still old 720 webcam
* old design and old hardware except new SoC and Wifi 6
* only 8 CPU (4 performance and 4 efficiency cores) - no upgrade options
* supposed to be usb 4.0 but "USB 3.1 Gen 2 (up to 10Gb/s)" instead of 20Gb/s
* no any innovation: * no esim * no truedepth camera * no fast charging * no reverse charing * no magnetic charger * no IMU sensors * no gps * no smaller bezel * no bluetooth 5.1
* "faster than 98% best selling PC laptops" - but best selling PC is usually cheap. what are those 2% laptops? Interesting how it stucks with thinkpads and dell XPS that will still cost a fraction of those mac with 16gb and 1tb ssd
* "2x faster ssd than previous macbook air" 2018 macbook air had 2GB/s but 2019 only 1.3GB so that would be around 2.6GB/s - nothing special comparing you can get faster SSD very cheap today e.g. 1TB 3500 / 3000 MB/s nvme SSD you can get for just $135
* keep in mind those 8GB or 16GB will be shared between GPU and CPU - have fun connecting your macbook pro 13 that starts with 8GB to 4k display
* "16x faster ML" seems likely only affects inference and 16x only related to previous macbook air/pro (instead of PC or macbook 16 with discrete GPU)
* tensorflow seems only accelerated for inference - seems unlikely can be used for training but let's see.
* price still the same, didn't get any 'bone' like making it cheaper or starting with higher SSD or RAM as a base
* macbook pro starts with just 8GB ram and 256GB SSD
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256 GB is an insult to everyone. And most people don't store all their data in cLoUd, just some minor, select stuff - that is why absolutely everyone has GBs of free storage from so many vendors. If most used the cloud heavily, those whole thing will collapse in an afternoon.
You don't get to speak for everyone. Especially if you are not aware of the many people who are just fine with working in even more "constrained" environments like Chromebooks.
Rationalize however you want for yourself - pros that choose to use Apple products are already generally aware of how their hardware money grab works.
My expectations: - Single core: 1600-2000 range - Multi core: 7000-10000 range - Metal: 19000-23000 range