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Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation
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Re: Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation
#42I'm voting with my attention, I won't click on Twitter links as far as possible, won't tweet or retweet. I won't post anything on Facebook, won't reply to any messages on Messenger. If they can censor, I can choose to ignore their "platform". I'd suggest anybody else who cares about free speech do the same.
Re: Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Twitter already has a replacement https://gab.com/
First paragraph on Wikipedia, in case anyone seriously considers it: > Gab is an English-language alt-tech social networking service known for its far-right userbase.[7] The site has been widely described as a safe haven for extremists including neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and the alt-right, and has attracted users and groups who have been banned from other social networks.[8][9][19] Gab states that it promotes fr…
Well they are the first being censored, so they are the first to migrate to other networks.
Re: Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation
#44Among 30 news organisations in the United States, none of them were trusted by more than 50% of Americans according to Pew Research. [1] This indicates the dramatic damage done to news organisations when they have been caught in egregious lies and falsehoods, again and again. Remember, when Twitter cites "official sources", it doesn't mean it's correct, or even that it's not totally fabricated. It means it's probably…
> enormous bias and propensity for lies So based on your citations, "enormous" is roughly a handful between the thirty of them over the last decade? Get some perspective, do you actually think the WaPo literally made up a story or do you think they (let's be uncharitable) ran with a story they should've done more due diligence on?
The citations can only include mistakes, not the enormous (and much more effective) bias in choosing which stories to run and how to frame them. Do you think it's a coincidence you only hear of police killings when the victim is black? Or, in the rare case when covering a white victim, that their race never makes the headline?
Re: Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation
#45Among 30 news organisations in the United States, none of them were trusted by more than 50% of Americans according to Pew Research. [1] This indicates the dramatic damage done to news organisations when they have been caught in egregious lies and falsehoods, again and again. Remember, when Twitter cites "official sources", it doesn't mean it's correct, or even that it's not totally fabricated. It means it's probably…
> This indicates the dramatic damage done to news organisations when they have been caught in egregious lies and falsehoods No, it mostly reflects the rise of ideological tribalism supported by the rise of a diverse array of media outlets catering to (and reinforcing) preconceived biases (some originally driven by propaganda interests, but more driven by the business desire to capture a distinct demographic market fo…
It is not just that. You do not need to made new outright lies in order to cater to preconceived biases. But, that is literally what is happening and was happening for years. It reflects also the fact political actors figured out that cynical insertion of massive lies is good for them and thus doing it.
Just catering to preconceived biases leads to basically good faith bias with a bit of manipulation. The current situation is well beyond that.
Re: Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation
#46I’ll just point out: if you’re a free speech purist, you are perfectly OK with this. Twitter isn’t removing these tweets, just adding their own messages. That is, they are responding to free speech with their own free speech. If they use this feature on high-profile figures it’s even better: free speech to authority.
That's some gymnastics if I've ever seen it.
Re: Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation
#47What would it take to replace Twitter and Facebook?
https://tinyfeed.co ? It was trending on product hunt yesterday and many alternatives are created every week. I don't understand people on HN. They don't want mainstream social media but won't try these smaller alternatives because they are not mainstream. Seems pretty contradictory, no? This isn't a real alternative because it doesn't have [insert the reason why people here hate twitter or Facebook]
The challenge is to get a significant amount of users to switch. As in many cases, convenience wins at the moment.
Re: Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation
#48I'm voting with my attention, I won't click on Twitter links as far as possible, won't tweet or retweet. I won't post anything on Facebook, won't reply to any messages on Messenger. If they can censor, I can choose to ignore their "platform". I'd suggest anybody else who cares about free speech do the same.
Things get flagged and removed on HN with some degree of regularity, for what it’s worth.
Re: Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation
#49Sounds good to me. Twitter is not really slowing down the like action, but it will say to you only “hey, this may be a fake news, are you sure you want like it?”. People are stupid, in a perfect world this is useless but we live here...
Ironicaly you missed the most important point: who decides what is fake news? You still don't get it that _NO ONE_ can claim they know what is/is not fake news because everyone has their own incentives.
There's little point trying to explain to the HN crowd. They're majority left leaning so are pro-censorship as long as it's not directed at them.
The people who are aware that the "fact checkers" have an agenda either won't accept it through mental gymnastics or simply don't care. Something which will come back to bite them.
i.e.
> Don't let the Orange man speak. Orange man bad!
Re: Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation
#50I'm voting with my attention, I won't click on Twitter links as far as possible, won't tweet or retweet. I won't post anything on Facebook, won't reply to any messages on Messenger. If they can censor, I can choose to ignore their "platform". I'd suggest anybody else who cares about free speech do the same.
Things get flagged and removed on HN with some degree of regularity, for what it’s worth.
The day HN's moderation becomes as blatantly biased as Twitter is, I'll leave HN too.