Ooh, now do Chrome!
Quite impossible without extensive sourcecode changes. Where FF has extensive user-configurable flags in about:config, Chrome is just a totally unconfigurable blob.
Disable telemetry and data collection in mozilla Firefox Quantum (2018)
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Re: Disable telemetry and data collection in mozilla Firefox Quantum (2018)
#42Mozilla people - this is a serious issue. If you want to champion privacy, you NEED to have a big red button that says "nothing gets sent out" and you NEED to have an end-to-end test to make sure Firefox respects it.
Why? Like, seriously. Telemetry is useful, and I am more than happy to provide them with some useful metrics so they know what to improve on - since I can’t really help with the code itself, since it is an insanely huge project.
It’s not like they use it to build a profile of you, as goddamn chrome does.
I feel that whatever Mozilla does can never be good enough for some people, even though they are one of the most important players in the “fight” of OSS. Just think about it, linux is only usable as a desktop OS because most of the desktop apps migrated to the web - and firefox is the only free browser that is actually capable, as well as the only engine that is not google-controlled. We should support them as much as we can.
Re: Disable telemetry and data collection in mozilla Firefox Quantum (2018)
#43If I let someone into my space and they carry out a bunch of shit, they,re not coming back in ...
Then let a bunch of rabid wild animals in your place, as that is what the only alternative is (every chromium based browser).
Also, it is a click-bait, out of date article without much truth to it, don’t believe everything you read online
Re: Disable telemetry and data collection in mozilla Firefox Quantum (2018)
#44Mozilla people - this is a serious issue. If you want to champion privacy, you NEED to have a big red button that says "nothing gets sent out" and you NEED to have an end-to-end test to make sure Firefox respects it.
Why? Like, seriously. Telemetry is useful, and I am more than happy to provide them with some useful metrics so they know what to improve on - since I can’t really help with the code itself, since it is an insanely huge project. It’s not like they use it to build a profile of you, as goddamn chrome does. I feel that whatever Mozilla does can never be good enough for some people, even though they are one of the most i…
It annoys me that Mozilla and Firefox are held to an almost impossible standard by this community, whereas others get a pass on behaviour that's far more intrusive. These posts seem to be lacking entirely in perspective. That doesn't mean that Mozilla can't be criticised, but ffs, don't blow minor issues out of proportion.
Re: Disable telemetry and data collection in mozilla Firefox Quantum (2018)
#45Mozilla people - this is a serious issue. If you want to champion privacy, you NEED to have a big red button that says "nothing gets sent out" and you NEED to have an end-to-end test to make sure Firefox respects it.
Agreed. This is probably one of the fastest way to loose users in 2020.
What are you going to switch to? Chrome? Sure, it would be nice to have an easy switch that disables all telemetry, but let's not forget that every other major browsers collects far more data, and the most popular browser steers you toward to storing your entire web and location history on their servers as soon as you log into your email account. Kinda puts non-identifying information about Firefox's performance into perspective, doesn't it?
Re: Disable telemetry and data collection in mozilla Firefox Quantum (2018)
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know there are a lot of people hanging around here looking for a business idea or a side project with some potential, so here's one idea: Create a customized version of Firefox that: - has support for removing the top bar when tst or something similar is installed. It should probably be possible to disable/reneable it using a menu option and an optional toolbar button. - actually disables all telemetry when you try…
Seems like someone would earn exactly $50 from doing that
I can't be the only one to miss old Firefox features and UX without wanting to leave behind all improvements we've seen the last few years on security, support for new standards and also performance.
Re: Disable telemetry and data collection in mozilla Firefox Quantum (2018)
#47Ooh, now do Chrome!
Quite impossible without extensive sourcecode changes. Where FF has extensive user-configurable flags in about:config, Chrome is just a totally unconfigurable blob.
There's a reason X-Client-Data telemetry being sent to DoubleClick servers in Chrome browsers is undisclosed to users, hard coded and impossible to disable.
Re: Disable telemetry and data collection in mozilla Firefox Quantum (2018)
#48Mozilla people - this is a serious issue. If you want to champion privacy, you NEED to have a big red button that says "nothing gets sent out" and you NEED to have an end-to-end test to make sure Firefox respects it.
Why? Like, seriously. Telemetry is useful, and I am more than happy to provide them with some useful metrics so they know what to improve on - since I can’t really help with the code itself, since it is an insanely huge project. It’s not like they use it to build a profile of you, as goddamn chrome does. I feel that whatever Mozilla does can never be good enough for some people, even though they are one of the most i…
Software that sends surveillance data of user activity without first obtaining the user’s consent is malware, silently acting against the wishes of the user, co-opting their hardware and network to work against them to benefit a remote party.
It’s great that you consent. In that instance it is fine. Many do not, and to proceed with the assumption of consent should be a crime.
What is done with the data is irrelevant. Spying without explicit consent is the problem.
Re: Disable telemetry and data collection in mozilla Firefox Quantum (2018)
#49A related anecdote: Firefox disabled ALSA support because their telemetry showed nobody was using it, but it turned out that the kind of people who use ALSA are also the kind of people who disable as much telemetry as possible:
https://chuttenblog.wordpress.com/2020/11/05/data-science-is...
Disabling telemetry is like refusing to register to vote: you minimise the chance of people doing bad things to you, but you also minimise the chance of people doing good things for you. Maybe that trade-off is worth it for you, maybe it isn't, but don't complain that the trade-off exists and don't get annoyed that other people choose differently.
Re: Disable telemetry and data collection in mozilla Firefox Quantum (2018)
#50Mozilla people - this is a serious issue. If you want to champion privacy, you NEED to have a big red button that says "nothing gets sent out" and you NEED to have an end-to-end test to make sure Firefox respects it.
Why? Like, seriously. Telemetry is useful, and I am more than happy to provide them with some useful metrics so they know what to improve on - since I can’t really help with the code itself, since it is an insanely huge project. It’s not like they use it to build a profile of you, as goddamn chrome does. I feel that whatever Mozilla does can never be good enough for some people, even though they are one of the most i…
It’s not like they use it to build a profile of you, as goddamn chrome does.
Eh? Says who? Them?
So many times, companies have lied, cheated, made excuses. So many times "we don't", then they do.
So. Many. Times.
So I should just trust Mozilla, because... well, why?
And this doesn't even take into account new corporate owners, leveraging existing data in a new way. Or rogue elements in corps, employees stealing data for profit, or even data leakage due to misconfigured servers.
These thongs have all happened.
Corps have left dumps of entire client databases, credit cards, id, on open portals!
Over and over, again and again, we have been shown, never ever trust anyone with your data. Ever.