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Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Post by jjav »

azamba wrote: post #2

Does anyone use Mutt with gmail or alikes today? Is it worth it? Mutt was my preferred email client back in 2000-2004. But gave it up for Gmail web interface.

> Does anyone use Mutt with gmail or alikes today? Is it worth it?

I use mutt with gmail account (and with everything else, although primarily I use my self-hosted email server). Works fine with gmail.

> But gave it up for Gmail web interface.

The web interface is so inferior, I can't imagine using it by choice (I'm forced by $EMPLOYER to use the gmail web interface, so I suffer through that pain daily).

Anywhere that I have a choice, I use mutt.

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Post by dilawar »

These days I don't use mutt much because I need to mark some emails as 'remind me later' and bluemail and gmail offers this functionality. Is there a mutt alternative?

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Post by jjav »

freedomben wrote: post #6
azamba wrote: post #2

Does anyone use Mutt with gmail or alikes today? Is it worth it? Mutt was my preferred email client back in 2000-2004. But gave it up for Gmail web interface.

I'm considering it now that my nostalgia is flaring up. One thing that was a pain point in the past was offline use. If your mail provider is IMAP only then you need to hack stuff together to use offline. As a paranoid freak I prefer to have offline copies of everything.

> I'm considering it now that my nostalgia is flaring up.

That's one valid reason but it's unfortunate IMO to see it that way.

Mutt (and similar, although I use mutt) are just so much inherently better than any web interface can ever be. The configurability and access to pipe content to other processes cannot be matched.

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Post by RMPR »

freedomben wrote: post #4

So mutt is still receiving releases? That's neat. I may have to revisit and see what's new in 2.0. I went through a CLI-only phase where I didn't use a desktop environment. My "DE" was just tmux in a pseudo-terminal. The main reason I went back to a graphical workstation was a need for G Suite and Slack's horrible support for Weechat. Mutt was a critical member of the toolkit and I have fond memories of hyper product…

> If you find yourself unable to use a CLI browser for some reason, at least you don't have to tell work "sorry I gotta install my OS before I can look at " (that doesn't go over well).

Can relate so much. Tried to go CLI only, switched back, but I settled to use a WM (sway).

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

#45

Post by RMPR »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #14

> Automatic reconnect to IMAP on error Really looking forward to this. This was the one notable issue I had with mutt: if you lose your connection, it would forget which mails you marked as read, deleted, etc.

That's what drove me initially to aerc + notmuch

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Post by imroot »

freedomben wrote: post #4

So mutt is still receiving releases? That's neat. I may have to revisit and see what's new in 2.0. I went through a CLI-only phase where I didn't use a desktop environment. My "DE" was just tmux in a pseudo-terminal. The main reason I went back to a graphical workstation was a need for G Suite and Slack's horrible support for Weechat. Mutt was a critical member of the toolkit and I have fond memories of hyper product…

I use weeslack for my Slack integration, and still live just about 100% in the terminal.

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Post by tjoff »

RMPR wrote: post #45
JoshTriplett wrote: post #14

> Automatic reconnect to IMAP on error Really looking forward to this. This was the one notable issue I had with mutt: if you lose your connection, it would forget which mails you marked as read, deleted, etc.

That's what drove me initially to aerc + notmuch

That works? One of the main reasons I'm considering switching from aerc to mutt/something else is because IMAP keeps disconnecting.

Seems like the number 3 item you would want to nail down in a mail-client. But I'm sure it is just me that haven't looked into it yet. Unfortunately I just can't find time for it for the time being.

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Post by thom »

freedomben wrote: post #4

So mutt is still receiving releases? That's neat. I may have to revisit and see what's new in 2.0. I went through a CLI-only phase where I didn't use a desktop environment. My "DE" was just tmux in a pseudo-terminal. The main reason I went back to a graphical workstation was a need for G Suite and Slack's horrible support for Weechat. Mutt was a critical member of the toolkit and I have fond memories of hyper product…

I still regularly do work without an X server booted up, and I feel it's a tremendous aid to my focus and productivity. And to an extent my happiness too: I feel like I'm using a computer again, something I've loved since I was very young, and which lately has taken a back seat to apps (mostly web-based) built around the metaphor of being in a series of crowded, noisy rooms.

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Post by dan00 »

aidenn0 wrote: post #34
ravi-delia wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Mutt with gmail. For a while I hooked it up to read off the internet, but eventually I switched to OfflineIMAP, then to isync. For sending I us msmtp. Both are pretty straightforward to configure, especially compared to mutt itself. I'd definitely recommend using notmuch if you do decide to keep that local copy of your mail, the search is pretty incredible.

What was the advantage of isync? I'm currently using offlineimap.

isync doesn’t let the fan of my laptop cpu run. Yes, no joke, I could detect the running of offlineimap by the fan.

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Post by dan00 »

freedomben wrote: post #6
azamba wrote: post #2

Does anyone use Mutt with gmail or alikes today? Is it worth it? Mutt was my preferred email client back in 2000-2004. But gave it up for Gmail web interface.

I'm considering it now that my nostalgia is flaring up. One thing that was a pain point in the past was offline use. If your mail provider is IMAP only then you need to hack stuff together to use offline. As a paranoid freak I prefer to have offline copies of everything.

I’m using gmail + mutt + isync. Because some people recommend offlineimap, I used it before and isync is better in any regard.
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