Horizontal totalitarianism in life and literature

Post by jberryman » Sat, Nov 07, 2020, 5:29 PM UTC

baryphonic wrote: post #15

spanktheuser wrote: post #6

What a mess. In small tribes social control can be directly maintained as members have perfect knowledge of any individual’s reputation. This mechanism doesn’t scale beyond a few hundred individuals so institutions such as hierarchical organized religion were invented. We have established words (oppression) and jargon (social control) for this already. The author has decorated an old concept with new jargon and is pa…

> Ah. Rodriguez resents progressive movements that seek to upend the current social hierarchy (presumably because Rodriguez enjoys exerting social control far more than experiencing it) and has coined this new jargon to associate movements he dislikes with a reviled term (totalitarianism) > > Rodriguez begins with an intellectual lie, then uses it to advance the idea that anti-racist and anti-misogynist movements are…

Post by knolax » Sat, Nov 07, 2020, 6:08 PM UTC

baryphonic wrote: post #21

knolax wrote: post #17

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> Seems to me they've been culturally dominant in America (i.e. they control the schools, the media, entertainment, government bureaucracy and now Big Tech) for over a century Explain to me how BLM controlled America in the 1920s.

> Explain to me how BLM controlled America in the 1920s. Progressive movements in general, not BLM and MeToo in particular. The Atlantic, The New Republic, the American Economics Association, Planned Parenthood and many other Progressive organizations have been around for over a century. BLM is a particular instance of the sort of "third wave" of Progressive activism, which is based on expanding the civil rights move…

Post by throwaway201103 » Sat, Nov 07, 2020, 7:15 PM UTC

pjc50 wrote: post #39

Joker_vD wrote: post #36

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Interesting that BLM seems believe that the largest cause of violent deaths of black persons is police brutality, not the gang violence. Or does the US police actually manage to kill more African-Americans than the ghetto gangs? That'd actually be impressive.

The difference is that murders by gangs are prosecuted, whereas murders by police tend not to be.

Post by unabst » Sat, Nov 07, 2020, 8:20 PM UTC

lr4444lr wrote: post #38

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The intellectually dishonesty is quite apparent. Questioning his ethics and motivations is not a particularly difficult leap given the mediocre argument presented. If you think it supports the author's stated thesis (and not the hidden these of "why don't these people agree with my opinions and stop forcing me to question my own role in the current structure") then perhaps you need to work on your critical thinking s…

So what substance of Rodriguez's argument do you actually disagree with, then?

Post by a1369209993 » Sat, Nov 07, 2020, 10:41 PM UTC

knolax wrote: post #43

baryphonic wrote: post #21

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> Explain to me how BLM controlled America in the 1920s. Progressive movements in general, not BLM and MeToo in particular. The Atlantic, The New Republic, the American Economics Association, Planned Parenthood and many other Progressive organizations have been around for over a century. BLM is a particular instance of the sort of "third wave" of Progressive activism, which is based on expanding the civil rights move…

> third wave" of Progressive activism, which is based on expanding the civil rights movement. > The first wave Progressives wanted nothing to do with civil rights, and most were virulent and unrepentant racists > All three groups advocate for nearly identical policies All three of these statements can't be true at once.