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Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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Post by buzzy_hacker »

win32k wrote: post #30
heavyset_go wrote: post #8

I think it's interesting how iOS exploits are cheaper[1] than Android exploits, because iOS exploits are so plentiful in comparison to Android exploits. [1] https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/09/for-t...

Why are you citing a year+ old article? It's clearly out of date. iOS is a much more secure platform, and exploits are much rarer than Android exploits. HN has really gone down in quality of readers/commenters.

It would be better for you to provide the up-to-date information showing otherwise yourself, rather than name-calling

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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Post by wnevets »

hokumguru wrote: post #40
wnevets wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

until Apple throttles the hardware with their software updates [1] https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/13/21322867/apple-iphone-bat...

Wasn't the purpose of that throttling to extend the life of older phones? Throttling the CPU let them stay within the limits of the worn out battery and let the device continue to be used without crashing.

That may have been their public explanation after being caught throttling the hardware.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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Post by Y-bar »

hokumguru wrote: post #40
wnevets wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

until Apple throttles the hardware with their software updates [1] https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/13/21322867/apple-iphone-bat...

Wasn't the purpose of that throttling to extend the life of older phones? Throttling the CPU let them stay within the limits of the worn out battery and let the device continue to be used without crashing.

It was to extend the battery life, which was a workaround for the flawed battery design (contra CPU power draw). I bought an iPhone SE in the first month available and it started throttling by month 10, I'm not a battery designer, but I did not buy a device marketed as 2x the speed of 5S only for it to silently drop to 0.8x the speed of the 5S less than a year later.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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Post by gcheong »

alewi481 wrote: post #10

I'd like to give kudos to Apple for including the iPhone 5S in this security update, which was released on September 20, 2013, over 7 years ago! Supporting a product for even 3 years is rare in the smartphone world.

Since this is a security update I think it’s more about support of an OS which is only 2 yrs old than the class of device as that class was supported with the initial iOS 12 release.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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Post by kogir »

heavyset_go wrote: post #8

I think it's interesting how iOS exploits are cheaper[1] than Android exploits, because iOS exploits are so plentiful in comparison to Android exploits. [1] https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/09/for-t...

I’d guess it’s because the individuals worth using a targeted exploit on are more likely to be carrying iPhones.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

chews wrote: post #27
als0 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 5S is still the perfect iPhone.

The 12 mini is gonna be my next daily driver.

Same here.

I write iOS software, so I have a whole bunch of test units.

My "low-end" test unit is an iPod Touch (last gen). Basically, a skinny SE (Apple doesn't even have an iPod simulator -you're supposed to use an SE sim).

My regular daily phone is an Excess Max (XSMax). I'm sick to death of it. I don't have much use for all that screen real estate, and it's a big honkin' monster.

Every time I use my Touch, it makes me envious.

I'll be placing an order for a Mini, tomorrow.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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Post by reaperducer »

ezekg wrote: post #16
als0 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 5S is still the perfect iPhone.

How do you still have one that's running OK? My Apple products almost always "die" after a few years. I had the 5S but one day it crashed and would not turn back on no matter what I did. The iPhone I had before that did the same thing.

How do you still have one that's running OK? My Apple products almost always "die" after a few years.

Consider yourself unlucky and never buy a lottery ticket.

Apple is well-known for making products that last longer than most others in the industry.

I have a launch day iPhone 5 that gets daily use and still works fine as of this morning. Launch day was in September of 2012.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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Post by jtbayly »

Y-bar wrote: post #39
alewi481 wrote: post #10

I'd like to give kudos to Apple for including the iPhone 5S in this security update, which was released on September 20, 2013, over 7 years ago! Supporting a product for even 3 years is rare in the smartphone world.

Wouldn't last official sale date be a better indicator of true device support? For example if someone bought it in an Apple store on the last day available, how long period would they have received updates for? For example in mid 2017 it was still officially sold by Apple in India (source: https://www.iphonehacks.com/2017/05/apple-iphone-5s-iphone-s... ).

No, because devices can be and sometimes are sold with software that is already out of date. The better indicator is how long software support is provided for a device from beginning to end.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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Post by reaperducer »

Y-bar wrote: post #43
hokumguru wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wasn't the purpose of that throttling to extend the life of older phones? Throttling the CPU let them stay within the limits of the worn out battery and let the device continue to be used without crashing.

It was to extend the battery life, which was a workaround for the flawed battery design (contra CPU power draw). I bought an iPhone SE in the first month available and it started throttling by month 10, I'm not a battery designer, but I did not buy a device marketed as 2x the speed of 5S only for it to silently drop to 0.8x the speed of the 5S less than a year later.

the flawed battery design

I'm going to play the odds and guess that you're not a battery designer.

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