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Movie Industry: VPNs and Tor Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms

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Re: Movie Industry: VPNs and Tor Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms

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Honest question, why does region locking exist? Usually it's all about money, but what is such a strong incentive that makes it sensible to decline getting money from customers? Laziness? Local laws? Some complicated scheme where it costs more money than it makes?

Basically because of the division between publishers and distributors. Publishers make deals with different distributors in different countries, and some (many) of these distribution deals are exclusive. For example, Universal signs a deal with a UK channel that includes the exclusive right to distribute in the UK. These exclusivity deals are mutually beneficial - Universal has less deal-signing overhead in dealing w…

I think it's because of price discrimination. Same reason why there are "international" versions of text books.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_discrimination

If you have a good whose marginal costs is very small, then once it has been created, the optimal method to sell it is to sell it to each person for the maximum amount they are able and willing to pay. Obviously, people in poorer countries aren't able to pay as much as people in richer countries, so by creating different versions for them, the seller can maximize revenue, but only if the people in richer countries aren't able to obtain it at the cheaper price.

In a way, this is good for poorer countries as they can obtain the goods at a cheaper price since the alternative might be that the seller simply abandons the market.

Re: Movie Industry: VPNs and Tor Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The next headline would be: "Stopping and Starting Subscriptions Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms" Well, more like "Dear subscriber, for your convenience and security, you can now activate your subscription in 3-month packages. Don't thanks us, at EvilCast, we're always thinking of you".

This one is easier for them to fix with loyalty-based pricing and/or activation fees.

At least we can rest for now, knowing they won't do that until one of them is convinced it won the subscription streaming war.

Re: Movie Industry: VPNs and Tor Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms

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Time for the Movie industry to move to the Patreon model. They have more than enough fans to support them. Why can't i watch a movie in the app of my convenience (e.g. Popcorn Time) and still be able to pay for it? Why is there no such "virtual ticket" option. I know they want to package their products in specific ways, but they demand that the entire internet infrastructure bends to match their favourite way and tha…

because almost no one pays in a patreon model.

Re: Movie Industry: VPNs and Tor Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms

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Well hey, that's what happens when you turn streaming into cable . I had Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu subscriptions last year. Today, I have none of those, except for one or two video purchases I made on Amazon. Now I'm supposed to have Disney+, CBS All Access, HBO Max, Peacock, etc., and that list will probably grow. And we're at a low point in what we consider entertainment. It's bread and circuses up the wazoo. And n…

I agree it sucks, but isn't this pretty much what "everyone" was asking for? A few years ago it felt like every week there was some refrain of > Look, I don't want to pay $120 for 900 channels I never watch. Just let me pay for them a la carte. This reminds me of those plots where the devil grants wishes in sneaky terrible ways that are not at all what the asker intended.

Well at the same time due to the way the industry works in the first place. Netflix was fundamentally going to die. Mainly due to how licensing fees work. Doing this alleviates that pressure in a way that cable never could.

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Movie industry: we're not going to give a bunch of people any way to pay us for our content. Also movie industry: why are so many people watching our content without paying us for it?

Hum... It's about VPN and TOR, not piracy, so no it's: Movie Industry: Those criminals are breaking the Law and paying us to watch our content in ways that we really do not want them to!

I don't really understand people who do that. If I pirate, the movie industry disapproves. If I pay but use a VPN, the movie industry still disapproves, I have to use its DRM-infested client and an operating system it approves of, and have less money.

Re: Movie Industry: VPNs and Tor Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms

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We should let their obsolete business models fail instead of writing new laws in defiance of the reality of digital communication.

They're like any other industry, struggling in an increasingly digital, on-demand world and competing with 'free' YouTube entertainment. There is no quick fix here. Its a supertanker that takes ages to correct course. People need to vote with their eyeballs and ears. Folks need to take some personal hits and avoid popular big-studio content. Its hard, if not impossible to make an amicable deal when only one side has…

Unfortunately abstaining from consuming their products (as I generally do these days) doesn't render me immune to the legislative fallout of their dying thrashes.

Re: Movie Industry: VPNs and Tor Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basically because of the division between publishers and distributors. Publishers make deals with different distributors in different countries, and some (many) of these distribution deals are exclusive. For example, Universal signs a deal with a UK channel that includes the exclusive right to distribute in the UK. These exclusivity deals are mutually beneficial - Universal has less deal-signing overhead in dealing w…

I think it's because of price discrimination. Same reason why there are "international" versions of text books. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_discrimination If you have a good whose marginal costs is very small, then once it has been created, the optimal method to sell it is to sell it to each person for the maximum amount they are able and willing to pay. Obviously, people in poorer countries aren't able to pa…

> the optimal method to sell it is to sell it to each person for the maximum amount they are able and willing to pay.

The optimal method for minimizing the consumer surplus.

Re: Movie Industry: VPNs and Tor Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms

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Time for the Movie industry to move to the Patreon model. They have more than enough fans to support them. Why can't i watch a movie in the app of my convenience (e.g. Popcorn Time) and still be able to pay for it? Why is there no such "virtual ticket" option. I know they want to package their products in specific ways, but they demand that the entire internet infrastructure bends to match their favourite way and tha…

because almost no one pays in a patreon model.

i m not sure if someone has worked out the economics. Billions can pirate a movie, yet many millions pay netflix etc. How much does a movie play cost on netflix.

Re: Movie Industry: VPNs and Tor Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms

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Industries that rely on TV are a cancer refusing to die. People here are forced by law to pay more than 200 EUR per year to the national TV broadcaster even when they don't own a TV. The reason? They still receive the signal, thus they could watch TV if they wanted. BS. /rant

I understand your frustration, but the public library, museums, schools, or roads, for that matter, follow the same funding scheme.

In a pure capitalist world, you pay as you go, but in reality, people want common public goods funded by the public regardless of use.

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