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As an older guy I've finally figured out weight-loss

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Re: As an older guy I've finally figured out weight-loss

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post #37

I needed to simplify even more: Calorie counting doesn't work for me, I'm just not disciplined enough. I learned a shortcut, which might not work for others: I try to go a bit hungry. If I'm hungry, I'm in calorie deficit. I might even get a bit cold. Turns out I can just listen to the hunger feeling and know whether I'm currently losing or gaining weight. But walking past a bakery, inhaling the smell of fresh bread.…

> I'm just not disciplined enough.

That is exactly the point.

Being disciplined is the only way to lose weight. All these magic techniques and whatnot are just shortcuts to cheat you into being more disciplined. And what works here is different for everyone.

Re: As an older guy I've finally figured out weight-loss

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I lost 30 kg. Crucial components:

ZERO cheating. Not a single beer. Not a single extra bite. Managed this for 3 months, losing 15 kg. Then occasional cheating for 6 months, losing 0 kg... Then managed once more for 3 months, lost another 15 kg. This is the hard part, I managed by introducing the following habits:

Same "default" meal every day. Chicken with broccoli, day in day out. It's not the best nutrition advice, but not having to think what to buy and what to cook is a huge factor.

Drinking a lot of water. 3 litres a day. I'd basically put two 1.5 liter bottles of water on my desk and made sure to drink all of it. Simple, effective.

Mindset shift. Told myself "I don't eat sweets" and "I don't drink alcohol" - sounds stupid, but very efficient to have preprogrammed reaction when facing a temptation.

Re: As an older guy I've finally figured out weight-loss

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You need to wait 12-24 months before you can consider your diet a success.

A caloric deficit doesn't work long term, as over time your metabolism slows down to match the caloric intake.

"The key to long-lasting weight control is to control the main hormone responsible, which is insulin. Controlling insulin requires a change in our diet, which is composed of two factors — how high the insulin levels are after meals, and how long they persist. This boils down to two simple factors:

What we eat — which determines how high insulin spikes; and

When we eat — which determines how persistent insulin is."

The best resource for weight loss via fasting is Dr. Jason Fung

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nJgHBbEgsE

https://www.dietdoctor.com/my-single-best-weight-loss-tip (link looks a bit spammy, but contains good information)

Re: As an older guy I've finally figured out weight-loss

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Caloric restriction worked great pre-1980's. If you could stick to 'simple foods', like the author advocates, it still works. The reason why so many people dismiss it is that from the 1980's onward food was starting to get designed for overeating, and labeling requirements were starting to be gamed so the calories listed on these designed foods (and that includes nearly everything today) no longer have as high straig…

It goes back a lot further than that. The moment we started tinning food and making long life carbohydrates the equation completely changed. They take so much less energy to digest than their counterparts but its even deeper. Have a read into the difference in flour making over the past century and how industrial processes and wheat variants have gone hand in hand to remove all the fiber from bread. We have been adjusting our food to increase calory density and reduce the cost of digestion for thousands of years but it really accelerated in the past 120.

A Kilo Calory is the energy extracted in burning it, our body doesn't burn fuel it chemically converts it into different substances, the processes are so different since one conserves mass and the other does not. It is a terrible measure given plant fibre burns well and produces lots of energy and hence has lots of calories but plant fibre generally goes right through us since we can't digest a lot of it. The entire thing is a bit rotten from a science point of view. Reducing how much we eat sort of works, for some people, changing to more natural foods works for others, changing to fats and protein exclusively for others etc etc. Few studies show the majority of people loosing fat long term. All this to me points to the fact we don't have this figured out at all yet.

Re: As an older guy I've finally figured out weight-loss

#45
The only thing you need to know to successfully lose weight is that you need to consume less calories than your body requires to maintain its current weight. That's it.

I’m afraid this is BS. It’s from the “how to make a million dollars and pay no taxes” school of self improvement. Sure, to lose weight you have to consume fewer calories than you need to maintain your current weight. Understanding that tautology is not the part that people find difficult.

Re: As an older guy I've finally figured out weight-loss

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post #27

I'll tell you a simple trick that works for me and should work for most people who can afford this (considering possible health concerns): Don't eat anything after 4PM, basically skip the 3rd meal of the day. Go for a 5-7km walk every other day. Just make sure to have all the necessary vitamins and minerals throughout the day.

I do some form of intermittent fasting too, I only eat between 12h and 19h, but that's mostly to make sure that my meals still feel substantial enough

Re: As an older guy I've finally figured out weight-loss

#48
post #37

I needed to simplify even more: Calorie counting doesn't work for me, I'm just not disciplined enough. I learned a shortcut, which might not work for others: I try to go a bit hungry. If I'm hungry, I'm in calorie deficit. I might even get a bit cold. Turns out I can just listen to the hunger feeling and know whether I'm currently losing or gaining weight. But walking past a bakery, inhaling the smell of fresh bread.…

>it feels like getting a sugar fix.

And it's horrible for your body. It's still releasing insulin, but there's no sugar to meet it. So you're driving toward metabolic syndrome without putting on the pounds.

Re: As an older guy I've finally figured out weight-loss

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Been doing similar research on same topic over the past few months, and I can say strict calorie counting is definitely the easiest way: It's incredibly easy to accidentally exceed maintenance calories which will kill the progress.

Some slightly more advanced advice:

* Figure out your Basal Metabolic Rate or BMR. That's the number of calories you burn by lying on couch.

* Count your calories for food and exercise.

* Make sure you're on 10-30% calorie deficit, aim for 1-1.5% total body weight loss / week.

To make maintaining the diet easier, immediately cut out all products with added sugars. The sugar crashes and cravings will ease in a week or so. After that you'll notice you don't need to eat nearly as often, and as you decrease portion size you'll find your stomach shrinks and you'll feel full even with much smaller portions. Leave cheat days to once every two months or so.

Make sure the food is high in protein (about 1.5 grams / pound of body mass). The problem is, if you're not paying extra for 100% whey isolate supplement, you're probably getting too much sugar with the supplement so getting enough protein means you'll need to add some cardio (which in turn benefits from the protein and improves overall health). Make sure you always consume at least 20% of daily calories from fat to not hurt A/D/E/K vitamin intake. If you're obese, the calories from fat should be closer to 35% due to weakened insulin response of the body.

For the carbs you need and take, make sure it's always from products that have low glycemic index (rye bread, whole wheat pasta (Rummo is fantastic) etc). If you need to consume something that's sweet, eat it as part of a larger meal to reduce likelyhood of taking seconds etc., and to prevent blood sugar spikes that lead to blood sugar crashes that lead to binge eating.

If you're doing cardio, remember to increase distance only 10% / week to avoid over training which will slow the diet down. Stick to the 10% rule even if you think you can do more. It's as important as counting every calorie.

Also, if you're doing weights, consuming creatine etc. your body weight might increase despite fat loss, so to track body composition change the scale won't do. Body fat calipers are cheap and easy to use: there's sites that use e.g. Jackson-Pollock 7 to calculate body fat percentage https://www.free-online-calculator-use.com/skin-fold-test.ht...

Monthly progress photos also help, although if your body fat is very high the change won't be visible at first, but the speed of change is exponential.

Re: As an older guy I've finally figured out weight-loss

#50
post #25

Are you joking? You are 1 month in and you already declared a victory? Wait at least for 2 years before that. So far I've lost 10-15kg 4 times before gaining them back. Every single time :)

I declared that I've found a way to help me lose weight like I haven't been able to do before.

Keeping it off is another story, I'm sure, but that's lifestyle related, not dieting.

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