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Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by oriesdan »

xiphias2 wrote: post #7

I'm a Google Play subscriber, and I'm pissed, because YouTube Music was always forcing videos on me, and was harder to use for offline listening (stopping music when I locked the screen, like other people). What is better to switch to right now, YouTube Music, or Spotify?

I entirely stopped using streaming services and now buy and download my music from Bandcamp, using webradios to discover new titles (my personal favorite is the webradio Nordic Lodge Copenhagen, SomaFM also has a lot of good thematic radios).

I don't have any trouble listening to my collection when internet gets spotty, I can have real full shuffle on my collection without hearing always the same titles coming again and again, and I'm guaranteed I own my music, with no-one able to take it from me. It feels like the future :)

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by pwinnski »

Godel_unicode wrote: post #20
et1337 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iTunes would like a word with you...

And ping. And FaceTime.

FaceTime is still very much a thing[0].

So there's iTunes (2001-2019, but arguably renamed to Apple Music, so not actually dead), and Ping (2010-2012), the latter of which had approximately three users.

Like for like, Google Play Music (2011-2020) isn't quite as long-lasting, but more to the point, I'm not sure Apple has simultaneously maintained two competing services before ultimately canceling one.

Then the GP commenter mentioned "chat services," which makes the position unassailable. Google seems to have launched and folder a dozen or two chat services over time[1].

0 https://support.apple.com/guide/facetime/welcome/mac

1 no evidence cited

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by renewiltord »

Youtube Music has poor integration with my Google Assistant. I suspect many of the PMs do not use Google products at all or it would be readily apparent.

The big advantage is being able to play music from videos, which opens up a much larger catalogue.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by mark-r »

I've used Google Play Music as the player for the mp3 files I've copied to my Android phone, ever since I got the phone. Never touched the online capabilities. It was perfect, did everything I wanted just the way I liked it. Then suddenly one day it was just gone.

Anybody have a recommendation for an mp3 player app that works mostly the same?

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by xeromal »

kyrra wrote: post #14
ozmbie wrote: post #6

How is it that Google create/rebrand/close so many music and chat services over the years. While Apple have a single message service (iMessage) and a single music service (Apple Music) that have been consistently branded with constant growth and show no signs of being shut down? As a consumer I have no idea what’s going on with some areas of Google’s products. It’s a major turn off.

(Googler, opinions are my own) Agreed that it is annoying, but its interesting to look back at how we got here. Google Play Music (GPM) launched in 2011. To get music on here, I'm guessing that team had to sign contracts with the various publishers and record studios. The onboarding and licensing terms of those were likely entirely around this music streaming service. Then you have Youtube. It's been a video hub for…

What do you mean by background? Like play in the background?

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by dragonwriter »

atrus wrote: post #29
dragonwriter wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> YouTube Music is ok No, its quite bad. In addition to being flat-out buggy (I've had it multiple times in the last week just decide to switch to a playlist it invented rather than the one it was directed to play), it doesn't support basic music playing functionality like song or playlist repeat, and (surprisingly) its Google Assistant integration is awful, forcing you to use casting from a different device for basi…

What platform are you on. because I know for a fact that you can repeat individual songs, and playlists on the Android app. I'm also wondering about the casting, since I regularly cast (again from the Android app) to my minis at home.

> What platform are you on. because I know for a fact that you can repeat individual songs, and playlists on the Android app.

That's...bizarre.

I'm on Android, and the repeat icon, which I know for a fact was not showing up in the app on my phone any time from when I was forced to use because Google Play Music stopped working on my home speakers through last night, is now showing up. (And, while there is an new update to the app, I haven't installed it yet, so its not an app update.)

> I'm also wondering about the casting, since I regularly cast (again from the Android app) to my minis at home.

Casting works fine from the app (well, playlist bugs excluded), the problem is having to cast from the app for lots of simple tasks where voice commands worked for GPM. As music is part of the bedtime routine for my toddler and preschooler, having everything suddenly be much less straightforward has been...unpleasant.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by jhoechtl »

ghego1 wrote: post #35
xiphias2 wrote: post #7

I'm a Google Play subscriber, and I'm pissed, because YouTube Music was always forcing videos on me, and was harder to use for offline listening (stopping music when I locked the screen, like other people). What is better to switch to right now, YouTube Music, or Spotify?

Third option: Tidal, better sound quality, huge library and awesome playlists. Based on my own personal experience of course :-)

Can I upload my own music to tidal?

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by xeromal »

xiphias2 wrote: post #7

I'm a Google Play subscriber, and I'm pissed, because YouTube Music was always forcing videos on me, and was harder to use for offline listening (stopping music when I locked the screen, like other people). What is better to switch to right now, YouTube Music, or Spotify?

I was a google play music user since its inception and I switched to spotify. I paid 10$ for a tool to port over all my playlists, some which had over 800 songs. It was about 95% accurate so I'm a happy camper. Spotify's bread and butter is their music player so they're not going to cancel it anytime soon. lol

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by viraptor »

kyrra wrote: post #14
ozmbie wrote: post #6

How is it that Google create/rebrand/close so many music and chat services over the years. While Apple have a single message service (iMessage) and a single music service (Apple Music) that have been consistently branded with constant growth and show no signs of being shut down? As a consumer I have no idea what’s going on with some areas of Google’s products. It’s a major turn off.

(Googler, opinions are my own) Agreed that it is annoying, but its interesting to look back at how we got here. Google Play Music (GPM) launched in 2011. To get music on here, I'm guessing that team had to sign contracts with the various publishers and record studios. The onboarding and licensing terms of those were likely entirely around this music streaming service. Then you have Youtube. It's been a video hub for…

I'm not sure why the licensing would impact the app in any way. They could swap the backend, keeping the better app. The background video is just one feature to add compared to trying to fix the YTM many problems.
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