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Re: GitHub Certifications (Beta)

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

purpleidea wrote: post #27

The main problematic thing about this is that it can be used as a way for Microsoft to push their beliefs and agendas. It further centralizes git even more. For example (extreme case to make a point), imagine if the questions were like: 1) Which is the most reliable git platform? (a) github (b) gitlab (c) gitweb 2) Which is the best license for new code? (a) MIT (b) GPLv3 (c) ALv2 3) Which is better for coding? (a) s…

Emphasis on "can be"; nobody's stopping the competition for coming up with similar schemes, and while they have the biggest market / mindshare when it comes to git / open source hosting, they are definitely not the only one and the alternatives are great.

I can see how it's a bit like indoctrination though, but as another thread mentions, the AWS certification isn't that different; the first certification you can achieve there is pretty much learning the marketing message and talking points from AWS and cloud computing as a whole.

Re: GitHub Certifications (Beta)

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

breakingcups wrote: post #9

Ugh, this has Microsoft's playbook written all over it. Introduce a certification, thus increasing the gap between developers who (had their employee) pay Microsoft and developers that didn't. Conflate a generic concept (Git in this case) with Microsoft's specific implementation (Github), muddying the difference in managers' lexicons. Attempt to set Github as a standard to reach in everyone's mind. I mean there's a c…

> Introduce a certification, thus increasing the gap between developers who (had their employee) pay Microsoft and developers that didn't.

Did anyone ever take Microsoft's "Microsoft Certified Application Developer" or "Microsoft Certified Solutions Architect" titles seriously?

I was still in high-school when I heard about it. I asked some SWE friends of mine who told me that they didn't take it seriously due to the wide prevalence of _brain dumps_ all over the Internet. A few said having it on your resume may actually hurt their careers or job-seeking because potential employers who were on-the-ball took a dim view of them because they were so easy to obtain, so and automatically assumed anyone who advertised the fact they had one when they already had a degree in CS and/or good industrial experience at the very least had misplaced priorities (so I guess if you have it as a single line-item on your resume in 9pt text buried at the bottom that's okay, just don't make it a heading).

What's amusing to me is that after working at Microsoft in Redmond for a few years at the start of my career as an FTE SE in DevDiv - I didn't know anyone who had such a certificate. If no-one needed one to work at Microsoft on the very tools these certificates are for, what's the point?

Re: GitHub Certifications (Beta)

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

maple3142 wrote: post #26

Slightly off topic, but the url seems to be conflict with a user called "certifications". You can find that user using GitHub api or Mobile app, but you can't view his profile page on desktop.

It highlights that while vanity / "root" paths are cool, they also become a challenge later on.

They could either have gone with e.g. Reddit's scheme of having users under `/u/certifications`, or put extra GH pages under a subdomain (e.g. certification.github.com or pages.github.com/certification)

Re: GitHub Certifications (Beta)

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Post by yread »

3np wrote: post #31
purpleidea wrote: post #27

The main problematic thing about this is that it can be used as a way for Microsoft to push their beliefs and agendas. It further centralizes git even more. For example (extreme case to make a point), imagine if the questions were like: 1) Which is the most reliable git platform? (a) github (b) gitlab (c) gitweb 2) Which is the best license for new code? (a) MIT (b) GPLv3 (c) ALv2 3) Which is better for coding? (a) s…

Taking a look at the sample questions provided (questions and correct answers): Q4: Which licensing statement best describes a project to be truly open source? * it is recommended to choose a license because without it, the default copyright laws apply (technically correct but yeah) Q5: Which statements are true about GitHub Marketplace? * a digital catalog with hundreds of software listings from independent software…

Github recommended that you choose a license even before MS acquisition

Re: GitHub Certifications (Beta)

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Post by NiceWayToDoIT »

breakingcups wrote: post #9

Ugh, this has Microsoft's playbook written all over it. Introduce a certification, thus increasing the gap between developers who (had their employee) pay Microsoft and developers that didn't. Conflate a generic concept (Git in this case) with Microsoft's specific implementation (Github), muddying the difference in managers' lexicons. Attempt to set Github as a standard to reach in everyone's mind. I mean there's a c…

From cool place to institution. From fun to bureaucratic depression.

Reason I personally like GitHub as it is meeting point for like minded people, place where you play and learn while playing, without any judgment.

Certification obstruct that process of learn-play, it is like grownups coming to playground and saying to kids, now you have to play this way, you cannot play your own way... because erm... it help us to quantify you so we can exploit you better.

I heard somewhere "century of left brain domination over right brain"...

Re: GitHub Certifications (Beta)

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Post by onion2k »

One of the example questions is "Which statements are true about GitHub Marketplace?" Imagine failing to get certified by Github because, despite knowing how to use git and github well, you don't know enough about Github Marketplace. Worse than that, imagine not getting a job because you don't know enough about Github Marketplace to get the right certification. Wow.

Re: GitHub Certifications (Beta)

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Post by JackMorgan »

jmgao wrote: post #5
austincheney wrote: post #2

It is about git and Github so hopefully it will focus more things like digging out of rebase hell instead of the insanity Github actions.

Nope. From the study guide [1], rebase does not even appear to be mentioned, but "Define components of GitHub Actions workflows, including events that trigger workflows, workflow files, workflow runs, and jobs" and "Describe pricing for GitHub products, including GitHub Actions" are. 1: https://github.githubassets.com/images/modules/site/download...

Wow, no rebase, that's egregious. This isn't a git certification, it's a vendor lock in marketing tool.

Re: GitHub Certifications (Beta)

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Post by russianator »

jmgao wrote: post #5
austincheney wrote: post #2

It is about git and Github so hopefully it will focus more things like digging out of rebase hell instead of the insanity Github actions.

Nope. From the study guide [1], rebase does not even appear to be mentioned, but "Define components of GitHub Actions workflows, including events that trigger workflows, workflow files, workflow runs, and jobs" and "Describe pricing for GitHub products, including GitHub Actions" are. 1: https://github.githubassets.com/images/modules/site/download...

This is akin to Salesforce, Oracle and other certifications of their ilk.
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