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Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by dylan604 » Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 6:47 PM UTC

ghastmaster wrote: post #33

I've been following frequency therapeutics as well. I don't think the Neuromod treatment would provide much help to me. My tinnitus does not bother me in any meaningful way. The bothersome thing for me is hearing loss. Noisy environments interfere with my ability to hear conversation. Some frequencies I simply cannot hear. Some noises, cheap/bad audio in the higher frequencies for instance, actually hurt my ears. Whe…

I was in a T-bone accident where another car hit me centered right in between the driver and passenger doors. My left ear now has tinnitus, and I too have a hard time hearing conversation in large groups of people. However, after the wreck, I visited hearing specialist several times. I always passed their tests of the faint frequencies. They cannot explain where the ringing originates.?!?! It's one of those things it is hard to get a doctor to believe you since they can't actually see anything wrong. No broken bones, no lacerations, not bruising, nothing. Just ringing that they cannot hear.

Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by dylan604 » Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 6:49 PM UTC

m463 wrote: post #25

quaffapint wrote: post #4

I've often wondered why sometimes it's worse than others. It's always there. I always hear the ringing, but most times I can ignore it, but there are other times it just seems so much louder. I would like to know what all those triggers are so I can try to avoid them. Some are obvious - real loud noises, heavy exercise, etc, but others not so much.

I remember once in college I was sitting at a table with some friends studying. One said, "how can you guys study with that light humming like that?" And sure enough, one of the overhead fluorescent lights had an electrical humming coming from it. And it became hard to study from that moment forward.

Never hang out with an audio mixer. They point out some many noises in day-to-day life that I have just tuned out or never even noticed. Once they point it out though, I can't not hear it. To be fair, I'm that way about video and compression pointing out to people how shitting cable quality is. I'm a TV sales rep's worst nightmare.

Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by dylan604 » Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 6:54 PM UTC

ozten wrote: post #14

joewrong wrote: post #5

I wonder if I could lick a 9 volt battery and play back some high frequency tones through my headphones to get a similar effect?

May have similar results as overwriting your bootloader binary with the same number of bytes from /dev/random.

Just make sure your batteries are at least 80% charged or you are plugged in. Power loss during a firmware update like that can be catastrophic.

Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by rendall » Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 6:57 PM UTC

dylan604 wrote: post #41

ghastmaster wrote: post #33

I've been following frequency therapeutics as well. I don't think the Neuromod treatment would provide much help to me. My tinnitus does not bother me in any meaningful way. The bothersome thing for me is hearing loss. Noisy environments interfere with my ability to hear conversation. Some frequencies I simply cannot hear. Some noises, cheap/bad audio in the higher frequencies for instance, actually hurt my ears. Whe…

I was in a T-bone accident where another car hit me centered right in between the driver and passenger doors. My left ear now has tinnitus, and I too have a hard time hearing conversation in large groups of people. However, after the wreck, I visited hearing specialist several times. I always passed their tests of the faint frequencies. They cannot explain where the ringing originates.?!?! It's one of those things it…

I have heard that it can be likened to phantom limb syndrome: the brain is over-compensating for missing stimulation by creating it

Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by newman314 » Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 6:57 PM UTC

mrtksn wrote: post #24

I debugged my own Tinnitus, most doctors don't know anything and don't care about it. It turned out to be related to my neck, so I wonder on what subset of Tinnitus sufferers this treatment is even relevant. A short story about my debugging after frustration with the conventional medicine. One day after I came back from work it started in one ear, lasted for half an hour and went away for few minutes and came back to…

That's interesting.

I remember reading that one way of treating it would be lace your fingers behind your neck and do a flicking motion onto your neck with your fingers. Could be imaginary but it seemed to help. YMMV

Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by lilSebastian » Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 7:00 PM UTC

masklinn wrote: post #31

m463 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I notice it when I've stayed awake too long, and am exhausted. So I agree.

Meh. I notice it most when the insomnia is acting up and I lay in bed waiting for sleep which doesn't want to come.

I can relate, it's just awful.

Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by afita » Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 7:01 PM UTC

I think my tinnitus is caused by my microbiome. When I eat poorly (sweets, sugar, junk food, refined carbs, etc), I suspect that some bad bacteria multiply too much in my gut and they create some toxins that cause me tinnitus. When I eat more salads (vegetables, green leaves), lots of fiber, my tinnitus dissapears completely.

Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by monkpit » Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 7:08 PM UTC

If this can be reverse engineered and made into an rpi zero or something... I would be all over that.

Also, I really hate reading about tinnitus because it just reminds my brain to stop ignoring that ringing sound...

Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by MegaDeKay » Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 7:09 PM UTC

Causality1 wrote: post #22

adultSwim wrote: post #18

Has anyone tried this kinds of treatments? The internet seems full of snake oil cures. To my knowledge the only medically accepted treatment for tinnitus is antidepressants, so you don't feel so bad about having tinnitus.

HN covered a study that was looking for a motion sickness cure but found that holding a vibrator to the skull behind the ear stopped tinnitus for a lot of people.

This thread on a tinnitus forum discusses a subsequent trial of that vibrator in a controlled setting. Doesn't sound at all promising.

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/head-mounted-device-for...

Re: Tinnitus Treatment from Neuromod

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Post by ecommerceguy » Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 7:09 PM UTC

I have very noticeable ringing in my ears ever since I can remember. 2 things

1 Hearing tests have always indicated I have excellent hearing. 2. The ringing doesn't bother me, even in extremely quiet environments. Speaking of, the most peaceful quiet I've encountered was in a bamboo forest somewhere in middle China. I'll never forget the utter silence.