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Re: Facebook News

#41

Business wise, I'm sure it's a good idea for them. Unfortunately I don't completely trust Facebook to be impartial the news they report. They could very easily skew a narrative on a particular issue by placing news articles they agree with at the top, and not displaying articles that they don't agree with. That said, it's their business and they can do with it what they want, and it's still our decision if we want to…

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Re: Facebook News

#42

Anybody else having their browser history busted by visiting the link? Looks like it opens a new window for this page, and then closes the old one.

Worked fine on Chrome, but broke the back button on Firefox.

probably a result of Firefox's Facebook sandboxing

Re: Facebook News

#43
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Just in time for the official launch of https://upstract.com later this week.

This reminded me of a project an acquaintance of mine did in 1997/98 when he build a news aggregator site. Mind this was before Google News arrived and it was a great way of seeing all headlines from the bigger (ans also smaller) sites in Germany. Until the publishers came, dragged him to court on claims of copyright infringement (for doing deep links into the articles). That was a time, when clicking on a teaser bro…

I've been running this under various brands for 25 years — Back then I was the #1 referrer for Reddit and Digg so to this day, i still take some credit for their success ;) Folks from Conde to Forbes call me to get on the site — no one ever asked to be removed. It's great not to be Google.

Re: Facebook News

#44
> Note: News is only available on the Facebook apps for Android and iPhone in the U.S. You won't be able to access News on your browser.

Re: Facebook News

#45

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And it looks terrible. I’d guess that this site was thrown together by an outside agency, as these landing pages usually are by companies. In my experience these agencies don’t care about anything but getting paid, and will yield absolutely trash. And why wouldn’t they? They never have to deal with it again and the company hiring them probably doesn’t care, it’s just a marketing landing page. Then the company wants t…

You sound pretty jaded. But your thoughts don't really match my experience with software agencies as you mentioned. I previously worked for a software consulting shop/agency. Our mindset wasn't just build some crap software and deliver as you might imagine, we actually put care and effort into our work despite half the team being freelancers who might never work on the product again.

I too have worked with such agencies that actually care, and of course they exist. I guess I wanted my hot take HN comment and didn’t take the time to explicitly state that not every software consulting agency produces low quality work. If you don’t mind me asking, did you work on marketing landing pages like this one or something else? These marketing pages in particular are what I am calling out.

Re: Facebook News

#46
Closed it as soon as I saw "Open the Facebook App".

The only way I use Facebook is within a container in Firefox. I'll never install a Facebook developed application onto a phone ever again.

If what you're doing is making a competitor to google news, it should just be a webpage.

Re: Facebook News

#47
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Haha, it's janky and cropping parts of some logotypes too. Totally against the otherwise smooth animations and style in the rest of the page. It looks bolted on and I wouldn't be surprised it was a late decision to showcase some publishers and added by non web devs...

Was making me dizzy looking at it! Yes non web devs, or web devs in a rush because of a poorly managed project + deadline I reckon.

>> Yes non web devs, or web devs in a rush because of a poorly managed project + deadline I reckon

Why? You and the parent comment seem to imply that there are no crappy web devs, or at least none at FB. There are crappy people in every profession, as well as mostly good people who are crappy at just some aspects of their job.

Re: Facebook News

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And it looks terrible. I’d guess that this site was thrown together by an outside agency, as these landing pages usually are by companies. In my experience these agencies don’t care about anything but getting paid, and will yield absolutely trash. And why wouldn’t they? They never have to deal with it again and the company hiring them probably doesn’t care, it’s just a marketing landing page. Then the company wants t…

You sound pretty jaded. But your thoughts don't really match my experience with software agencies as you mentioned. I previously worked for a software consulting shop/agency. Our mindset wasn't just build some crap software and deliver as you might imagine, we actually put care and effort into our work despite half the team being freelancers who might never work on the product again.

I think it is important to differentiate software agencies and digital marketing agencies. Early in my career I worked at a few digital marketing agencies and this does feel very similar to what could be churned out. Everything was sold on the design. Sales teams would promise, mockups would be signed off on by clients without engineers looking at them, and there was usually a rush because of time and/or money once the project made it to the engineers hands.

Re: Facebook News

#49

Build a more personalized news experience? Hide publishers you're not interested in? Don't people from facebook see this'd increase the already existing polarization and information bubbles?

I get the idealism of wanting to expose people to a more diverse set of news sources but I also don't think I would ever use a news app that didn't let me filter out the chaff. Irrespective of your political beliefs there's still a lot of low-quality journalism out there that simply isn't worth your time.

I do think it's funny that "news" has become hard synonymous with "politics" despite the fact that columns like the arts, lifestyle, product reviews, food, local events, human interest, short fiction, non-political opinions, and sports are just as much news and are, arguably, the good bits.

Re: Facebook News

#50

> Note: News is only available on the Facebook apps for Android and iPhone in the U.S. You won't be able to access News on your browser.

I wasnt even able to access it in the mobile app. doa.
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