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Re: New Relic employees report unrest over work culture, CEO’s donations

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Post by thatswrong0 »

bigbubba wrote: post #40
thatswrong0 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not denouncing. That's a neutral way of stating that he had nothing to do with those donations. And stop pretending that this is just any ordinary coworker. This is the public face and leader of the company that publicly advertises a certain set of values. This is also a person who has been made rich by the success of the company, and then is using that money to donate to very morally questionable causes (eith…

> This is also a person who has been made rich by the success of the company, Would you say the degree to which a coworker's personal relationship with their spouse is 'your business' is proportional to their salary? Or how exactly do you figure this works? His relationship with his spouse is his business, not yours. It's really that simple.

In case you missed the details here somehow, this is in conjunction with his own personal donations to discriminatory organizations.

> His relationship with his spouse is his business, not yours. It's really that simple.

If his wife yelled racial slurs and he said nothing about it, should employees just shut up about that as well?

Re: New Relic employees report unrest over work culture, CEO’s donations

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Post by bigbubba »

thatswrong0 wrote: post #41
bigbubba wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is also a person who has been made rich by the success of the company, Would you say the degree to which a coworker's personal relationship with their spouse is 'your business' is proportional to their salary? Or how exactly do you figure this works? His relationship with his spouse is his business, not yours. It's really that simple.

In case you missed the details here somehow, this is in conjunction with his own personal donations to discriminatory organizations. > His relationship with his spouse is his business, not yours. It's really that simple. If his wife yelled racial slurs and he said nothing about it, should employees just shut up about that as well?

If you have a problem with a woman, you should take it up with that woman, not her husband. What century is this?

Re: New Relic employees report unrest over work culture, CEO’s donations

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Post by [deleted] »

bigbubba wrote: post #42
thatswrong0 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case you missed the details here somehow, this is in conjunction with his own personal donations to discriminatory organizations. > His relationship with his spouse is his business, not yours. It's really that simple. If his wife yelled racial slurs and he said nothing about it, should employees just shut up about that as well?

If you have a problem with a woman, you should take it up with that woman, not her husband. What century is this?

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Re: New Relic employees report unrest over work culture, CEO’s donations

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Post by alphabettsy »

satya71 wrote: post #36

Our politics has broken down. A minority rules, and the only avenue left to the majority is questionable tactics like this. More of these seemingly idiotic conflicts will arise until Congress functions again.

A minority has ruled for quite a long time, but I suspect we’re not talking about the same minority.

Re: New Relic employees report unrest over work culture, CEO’s donations

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Post by seppin »

seppin wrote: post #13
bmarquez wrote: post #7

> Cirne’s wife is a contributor to President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign, another sore point for many New Relic employees even though she has no role with the company...They see his wife’s donations to Trump as antithetical to the company’s stated values... What do the employees want to happen? Cirne to divorce or publicly condemn his wife over political contributions? He can't forbid someone else from making…

I find people using the framing of "what you can't have political beliefs" as a red herring in the age of Trump. Supporting Nixon at his most criminal and paranoid wasn't acceptable then, and it's not now.

Great this website has anonymously deputized users that can downvote comments without reason or explanation.

Does wonders for transparency in quality control.

Re: New Relic employees report unrest over work culture, CEO’s donations

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Post by thatswrong0 »

bigbubba wrote: post #42
thatswrong0 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case you missed the details here somehow, this is in conjunction with his own personal donations to discriminatory organizations. > His relationship with his spouse is his business, not yours. It's really that simple. If his wife yelled racial slurs and he said nothing about it, should employees just shut up about that as well?

If you have a problem with a woman, you should take it up with that woman, not her husband. What century is this?

The century where we generally assume that both members of a domestic partnership or marriage are fully aware of the actions of the other and, most likely, support said actions taken by the other, especially when those actions are public and controversial.

Re: New Relic employees report unrest over work culture, CEO’s donations

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Post by bJGVygG7MQVF8c »

thatswrong0 wrote: post #32
maxharris wrote: post #2

How did Mozilla fare after these same cultural forces excised Brendan Eich? And how's the Brave browser doing in comparison? (I'm using it to type this very message.) And before downvoting me, please note that I'm Jewish (ethnically speaking - I am more of a scientific pantheist in my actual views, but I digress) and bisexual. I do not support Cirne's charities or politics. I am merely calling into question the tacti…

Holding him to the same standards that the company publicly advertises it has is not silencing.

Yes, it is, actually. That's literally what the employees voicing their displeasure want --

(1) for his speech as a private citizen to not contradict the public values of the company he leads (i.e. for him to not donate to, say, exclusionary institutions), and,

(2) most likely, going beyond (1): for his speech as a private citizen to be "in alignment" with the public values of the company he leads (i.e., to compel speech).

You can agree or disagree that any of this is a reasonable or desirable or legal, but it's Orwellian doublespeak to claim it's "not silencing".

Re: New Relic employees report unrest over work culture, CEO’s donations

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Post by bJGVygG7MQVF8c »

alphabettsy wrote: post #44
satya71 wrote: post #36

Our politics has broken down. A minority rules, and the only avenue left to the majority is questionable tactics like this. More of these seemingly idiotic conflicts will arise until Congress functions again.

A minority has ruled for quite a long time, but I suspect we’re not talking about the same minority.

Everybody is all up in arms about the implicit biases that emerge when homogenous clusters form in positions of influence, except for when publicly noticing threatens their self-interest...

Re: New Relic employees report unrest over work culture, CEO’s donations

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Post by bigbubba »

thatswrong0 wrote: post #46
bigbubba wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have a problem with a woman, you should take it up with that woman, not her husband. What century is this?

The century where we generally assume that both members of a domestic partnership or marriage are fully aware of the actions of the other and, most likely, support said actions taken by the other, especially when those actions are public and controversial.

Assuming that two people in a relationship agree with each other's politics is a good way to make an ass out of yourself. Causing trouble at work because you dislike the politics of somebody's spouse is totally over the line and you've said nothing to make me question that.
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