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How to play the piano: On Glenn Gould

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Re: How to play the piano: On Glenn Gould

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I play piano and watching videos of Gould playing is fascinating. He violates every rule your piano teacher tells you about performance, from his unusually low chair made to accommodate a back injury to his habit of singing along to tunes that was often picked up in his album recordings. I especially like this performance of Beethoven's 32 variations in C minor by him [1]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoWXRlw9…

When you reach mastery you will usually end up breaking most rules. For starters, rules are meant to be one size fits all, but every body is unique which leads to different biomechanics. I knew a pianist who played Grieg concerto at the BBC Proms but she could barely stretch an octave. How she could play all the Chopin etudes from age 9 blows my mind. Speaking of Chopin his first teacher wasn't much of a pianist and…

> When you reach mastery you will usually end up breaking most rules.

This is so true, and expands wildly beyond the area of mastery. I was in the fortunate position to be able to spend days with numerous world class piano masters, both during rehearsals, dinner & regular daily activities and was always impressed with their "breaking of rules" both on and off stage. Some do this completely natural (Lazar Berman, who picked his performance piano within one minute "You have to understand, picking out a piano is like picking out a partner, you feel within seconds if you like her or not." ) with others it felt more like an act (not going to write her name, but she insisted to have a friend turn the sheet music, who was not able to read music and thus was either too slow or fast and she had to swiftly flip to the correct pages while performing...).

The more mechanical piano players where never really my thing. I love the players with their own style and interpretations & personal particularities (Lazar Berman again: Bring me to some cheap shops, I get tired of all the fancy places people take me all the time."). Critics are often not so much into that, however. So the number of "rule breakers" was always limited to a maximum of something like 20%.

Re: How to play the piano: On Glenn Gould

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Some factoids about Glenn Gould: - he hosted a music show on CBC radio for decades. (I was fortunate to live in downtown Toronto and received 3 classical FM stations at any time on an audiophile receiver.) - although idiosyncratic in style, if you don't like certain performances, you will find others absolutely stunning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Gould - the heir to Gould is Angela Hewitt, who is one of the…

thanks, I will totally check her out!

Her youtube channel,

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWwKwNdxsTsnNauAblBafLg

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BWV 847 from the WTC is almost like a practice piece but Gould makes it sound interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7AQtLnNZOY Here is a comparison on BWV 974 (Adagio) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2gVYB5oZ7o (Víkingur Ólafsson) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2zix8yTY_Y (Gould)

I wonder how would Gould react after listening to the Goldberg recording made by Lang Lang...

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I've only recently started to come around to liking the piano as an instrument and learning my around it a bit. This article touches on some the things that kept me away from it for so long - the mechanical nature of what is regarded as "good" playing, the focus on training up finger strength. But if I'm being honest, the number one thing that kept me away was that piano just seemed so... uncool. Watching youtube vid…

This is a topic about which I am particularly passionate. We teach music so wrong. Classical training is about militaristic precision - the ability to achieve perfect regurgitation of a piece that everyone has heard before. But this is the least interesting version of music. Still interesting because it requires skill, but, at least for me, not awe inspiring. Piano is one of the most versatile instruments (like the g…

Thank you recommendations, I will give them a listen.

You sound like an excellent teacher, and you're of course spot-on about how powerful piano is for composing. I always felt that when I tried to compose from string instruments (banjo or guitar mostly) there were just certain left-hand positions that were so awkward to transition between or hold for long periods, that they weren't worth exploring, even if I liked the sound. It's been really fun to sort of be able to run wild with the keyboard, it feels like experimenting is easier so I get more experiments in.

There was one other big thing that surprised me, as someone who was formerly turned off by experiencing the whole "room full of 8-year olds with the cheapest casios learning from one teacher and a workbook"-style of piano instruction. I grew up with one of those cheap digital keyboards with the light up keys and gazillion sounds, and it was never more than a novelty. It wasn't until I went to a friend's house last year and they showed me their piano (a big old yamaha upright they got second-hand) when I realized that the tactile feel from properly weighted keys is amazing.

I ended up getting an alesis with weighted keys, 16 voices, and pretty much no bells and whistles - but the experience of playing it is just night and day compared to the stuff I had been exposed to before that.

Re: How to play the piano: On Glenn Gould

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I've only recently started to come around to liking the piano as an instrument and learning my around it a bit. This article touches on some the things that kept me away from it for so long - the mechanical nature of what is regarded as "good" playing, the focus on training up finger strength. But if I'm being honest, the number one thing that kept me away was that piano just seemed so... uncool. Watching youtube vid…

Have you seen Valentina Lisista on YT? She is incredible and may hook you into Classical piano being cool, her videos are very well made and her playing is beastly.

Will definitely give her a listen then, thanks for the recommendation!
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