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Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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Post by agumonkey »

sebmellen wrote: post #24
agumonkey wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

was it discussion ? or more ?

If you're asking this question, you don't understand the principles of freedom of speech. Read the Aaron Swartz essay linked above, and while you're at it, watch this, from Noam Chomsky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-oV42OMQoE .

I think your opinion is extremely myopic and biased, I don't care much of shutting down subreddits to be honest, especially if you get extremists ready to act all up and angry together.

They're still very free to speak have no worry. Also if reddit didn't stop that, they'd be flagged as pro-racist. There was a need for a decision to be made, nothing else.

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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Post by quantumwoke »

I'm sitting here crying at my computer screen. Everything the early pioneers of the internet fought for, freedom of speech, lack of censorship, open discussion of radical ideas, is being destroyed. The destruction of Aaron's legacy is just the latest in a long list of final straws that is eroding my trust and hope for the future. Dark day today indeed.

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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Post by cryptica »

easytiger wrote: post #27
krapp wrote: post #19

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Unfortunately, it's not that uncommon here, either.

Increasingly so alas

A lot of people in the corporate sphere have no idea what's going on outside of their bubble. Society is falling apart. Morals are essential to the functioning of society.

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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Post by mdonahoe »

sebmellen wrote: post #4

Reddit is very clearly not in favour of free speech: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/reddit-bans-thedonald-and-... . Aaron Swartz was very clearly in favour of free speech: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/becausewecan . I think the reasons for this are self-evident.

HN isn’t exactly a bastion of free speech either

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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Post by dan-robertson »

sebmellen wrote: post #4

Reddit is very clearly not in favour of free speech: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/reddit-bans-thedonald-and-... . Aaron Swartz was very clearly in favour of free speech: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/becausewecan . I think the reasons for this are self-evident.

I don’t want to disagree with you but note that those articles are 15 years apart. I think public opinion inside and outside of tech on “free speech” has changed quite a bit over that time. For example I feel like there used to be more of a libertarian bent in tech then as opposed to now.

Is this perhaps an unfair comparison to make considering the general change in opinion over that time?

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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Post by gonzo41 »

kchr wrote: post #25
gonzo41 wrote: post #13

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Yet they have a lot of content. It works if you don't try and build up a profile and just talk crap on the internet.

I don't believe GP is debating whether Reddit is popular. People will put their "content" on whatever platform appears "free" and easy to use.

I know, but is any social media not run top down? I don't see the issue with it. They pay for the servers. Maybe we are expecting too much?

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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Post by secondcoming »

dogma1138 wrote: post #35
sebmellen wrote: post #15

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Shutting down platforms for discussion is quite literally restricting free speech. If you want to argue Reddit has a right to do that, sure. But that's not the argument.

TBH the platform itself doesn’t lend particularly well to free speech by penalizing unpopular opinions through karma. Ironically I think HN is worse in this regard by greying out posts once they get to -1, I often find out that sorting by controversial on many topics gives you the most interesting read on reddit. I would actually love if both HN and Reddit allowed you to see a Karma graph for each post.

Any upvote/downvote concept on online content is flawed because it does not show the historical score of a post over time. Even here on HN I can post something during GMT business hours that gets scored based on the views of HN's readership at that time, but when the US wakes up the score can change dramatically. Essentially, the US west coast can have the 'final say' because of its timezone and probably larger user base. It's really interesting to observe.

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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Post by xevrem »

sebmellen wrote: post #4

Reddit is very clearly not in favour of free speech: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/reddit-bans-thedonald-and-... . Aaron Swartz was very clearly in favour of free speech: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/becausewecan . I think the reasons for this are self-evident.

honestly, i would say the banning of thedonald is clearly a response to The Paradox of Tolerance rather than not supporting free-speech.

you cannot be tolerant of the intolerant if you want free speech to survive.

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