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Re: Color blindness

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post #9

Great article. Ummm... dumb question, but... stars are colored? (Color blind poster here).

I am not color blind and I've never noticed star colors. They just look white or yellow to me. It must be very subtle.

Try Mars? Not a star, duh, but it's glaringly red, even when observed in the city.

Re: Color blindness

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post #14
post #9

Great article. Ummm... dumb question, but... stars are colored? (Color blind poster here).

Is it obvious to everyone else? Do colored dots stand out in the sky? Or is it a subtle thing?

It probaly has to do with the low visibility of stars in general. Especially mayor european cities have so much light pollution that people, myself included, just see a few white dots at the night sky varying in brightness and ever so slightly in color if you pay attention.

Re: Color blindness

#43
post #26

Nice article. Small correction, humans are not old world monkeys (or any kind of monkey). We are apes.

Interesting, so English language has two words for them. e.g. in Polish both are "małpa" (and usually translated to monkey), similar to turtle and tortoise, for us it is a single world "żółw" (and usually translated to turtle).

Ape could be also translated as "człekokształtne" ("humanoids"?)

Re: Color blindness

#44
post #7

I didn't know he was color blind. I can't help but connect this to his famous disdain for syntax highlighting and colored text: https://groups.google.com/g/golang-nuts/c/hJHCAaiL0so/m/kG3B...

As someone who's similarly red-green colorblind, I'd say it's far more likely to be related to the amount of time he's spent reading and writing code on monochrome displays, perhaps coupled with market trends that tended to associate color with cheap/mainstream/gaming hardware vs. monochrome with expensive/professional/engineering hardware. For several reasons, there was a major trade-off between color and contrast/sharpness/resolution on most hardware until the mid-90s or so, and there was a tendency for engineering-oriented systems to embrace monochrome to get the highest contrast and resolution.

Re: Color blindness

#45
post #9

Great article. Ummm... dumb question, but... stars are colored? (Color blind poster here).

Somewhat unrelated story, but I used to be in astronomy and two friends of mine were once on an observing run together. Observing can sometimes be a bit dull and as you're getting night shifted it's hard to do anything productive while you're waiting for the exposures to finish. So you're looking for ways to pass the time.

Anyway, somehow my two friends started looking at color blindness tests. One of them had grown up in Latin America and hadn't seen a color blindness test before, so the other was explaining how there's a number in the center that you can't see if you're color blind. And he said... "what number?" That was how he learned at age 26 that he was color blind.

Re: Color blindness

#46
> That is a worthwhile endeavor, and the people writing them mean well, but I suspect very few of them are color-blind because the advice is often poor and sometimes wrong. The most common variety of color blindness is called red-green color blindness, or deuteranopia, and it affects about 6% of human males.

This is frustrating. He's trying to correct misconceptions and then he immediately gets the word wrong. What he's describing is 'deuteranomaly'. The term 'deuteranopia' applies to the more severe form of colourblindness shown in his diagram (a); it's a form of true dichromacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness#Classification

Re: Color blindness

#47
I also have this ind of slight red-green color blindness. It doesn't bother me in practice except for a few unimportant edge cases.

One of them is color maps. I wish people just used brightness maps instead, there's no value added by changing brightness gradient into a hue gradient.

The worst by far are multi-hue gradients.

Re: Color blindness

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post #17
post #8

I'm r/g colorblind, and suddenly the indistinguishability of small colored objects makes sense now. Wow. Okay then. I hate multicolor LEDs with a passion. Those little amber or green dots look identical to me, even when you put them side by side. I use a phone app that uses the camera and shows me RGB values at a reticule. I've gone through rack and racks of equipment with that app, looking for things like dead drive…

> I use a phone app that uses the camera and shows me RGB values at a reticule. Could you share the app name? It would make my life a bit easier (I hate those red/amber/green leds that look identical) :)

On Android, there's "Color Blind Pal" that I use, doesn't use RGB values, but gives you names for the colors instead.

Re: Color blindness

#49
> I can drive a car and I stop when the light is red and go when the light is green.

I'm also slightly colorblind and pure green light would be harder to distinguish from distance (not critical because there is also light position, but still). That's why traffic lights usually have cyan tint.

Re: Color blindness

#50
>> Maybe I can help you understand how that impairment—and it is an impairment, however mild...

This is actually a slightly controversial claim. While r/g color-blind individuals do have difficulty viewing colors, they seem to have an easier time seeing through camouflage:

A study on the ability to distinguish tones of khaki:

https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/in-combat-stick-with-t...

There is strong anecdotal evidence that color-blind men specifically recruited during the world wars to see camouflage: (I have personally heard such an anecdote).

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/a32spn/color...

And a short YouTube video on the ability of color-blind monkeys to forage for insects, whereas the monkeys with color-vision are better able to find ripe red fruit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NrmH039ffI

I suspect that if we lived in a world where the color-blind were the majority, it would be those with color-vision who wrote about their 'impairment'. Perhaps with a note about how video games often contain almost-impossible tasks to discern camouflage. (In the real world, video games often contain tasks that require the ability to discern colors that I find difficult due to my r/g colorblindness).

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