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What is the best dumb TV?

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I got a “smart” tv and just don’t let it on the network. Problem solved.

I read about Samsung (?) smart TVs connecting to nearby unsecured Wi-Fi networks and others containing LTE hardware with a data SIM.

Are the LTE modem and SIM network-locked like the Amazon Whispernet?

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I've heard of Ironcast.TV whose entire selling point is the lack of "smart" features, though I haven't ordered one and I'm not sure if they even shipped any, but on paper it looks nice and reasonably priced: https://displayy.studio/ironcast.tv/

I'm not sure what you mean by lack of "smart" features. Everything is controlled via an app. Sounds the opposite.

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unfortunately the best "dumb tv" these days is obtained by getting the "smart tv" that you _wish_ was dumb, and never connecting it to the internet.

I hope you never have a visitor in your house that connects it for you.

Who has visitors?

Seriously though, why would someone in your house who’s this clueless ever be given the network password in the first place?

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I’ve had good luck with sceptre brand TVs. They are no frills and cheap. Plug in a $30 roku and hook it up to some decent speakers and you are good to go. I’ve had two of them going on 8 years strong now. Loads of connectivity to. From vga to dvi to component/composite, 1/8” audio in/out, spdif, hdmi, etc, etc. On the other hand the power supply in my (former) LG plasma tv died after 1.5 years. I DIY replaced that wi…

It's worth noting that Roku devices apparently send a lot of information about your usage habits back to their servers, so if "privacy" is one of your reasons for choosing a dumb TV, perhaps Roku's not the best choice.

Not sure if there are authoritative deep dives out there, but here's what the Pi-hole folks saw:

https://pi-hole.net/2018/09/19/what-really-happens-on-your-n...

I was disappointed but not surprised to learn that. My experiences with Rokus have been really positive. Tracking issues aside, the user experience is pleasantly simple and responsive. A great example of "it just works" hardware+software. In fact, my 85 year-old dad and his tech-phobic wife even had positive things to say about the remote and interface.

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It's been a few years now, but when I bought my current TV (Samsung), one of the first things that popped up when I turned it on was several EULAs. I skimmed over them, and went "lol no", and pressed decline. This effectively lobotomized the TV. None of its "smart" features are enabled.

Unless you get a visitor over that wants to use those features and accepts them while you're away.

They'd have to have my WiFi password as well, which is 64 hexadecimal digits, and the SSID is the poo emoji. Have fun entering that with a TV remote.

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I got a “smart” tv and just don’t let it on the network. Problem solved.

> Problem solved.

I suspect that the 5g era will bring with it many more devices connecting unbeknownst to their owners, and that "smart" appliances will be first on the list.

As that approaches, we need solutions that address this as well.

Re: What is the best dumb TV?

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I've heard of Ironcast.TV whose entire selling point is the lack of "smart" features, though I haven't ordered one and I'm not sure if they even shipped any, but on paper it looks nice and reasonably priced: https://displayy.studio/ironcast.tv/

I'm not sure what you mean by lack of "smart" features. Everything is controlled via an app. Sounds the opposite.

As in no online features & ads.

They claim the app is open-source and I'm sure it only uses Bluetooth instead of WIFI thus no internet access at all.

In any case, IR remotes are supported and the app is optional.

Re: What is the best dumb TV?

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I posted in another thread but another option is commercial signage displays. They are built for commercial use which means they are very bright and durable and missing lots of consumer features. They can be more expensive but not outrageous.
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