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Re: Unfck the Internet

#41

Post by coldpie »

branon wrote: post #35
x3ro wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand this stance to be honest. Do you also think that Apple's focus on privacy is wrong? Why would a company building a web browser not be concerned about the state of the web, the privacy of it's users, etc? These things seem to be directly related to their product.

Apple is only focused on privacy in the barest sense. They'll refuse to unlock physical devices while happily answering thousands of requests from the US and other govermnents for users' iCloud data[0]. They also don't allow users to encrypt data stored in iCloud, expressly so they can continue to do this[1]. Apple's front as a privacy company is little more than PR. I understand this isn't really the point of your c…

> They'll refuse to unlock physical devices while happily answering thousands of requests from the US and other govermnents for users' iCloud data[0].

They are required by law to do the latter. They are not required to to do the former (or at least are willing to go to court to defend that belief).

> They also don't allow users to encrypt data stored in iCloud

The article you linked does not back up this assertion. It says they chose not to automatically encrypt user backups to the cloud, at the FBI's request. I'm sure if you encrypt data and upload it to iCloud, they will not delete your encrypted data.

Re: Unfck the Internet

#43

Post by ffpip »

NikolaeVarius wrote: post #36
ffpip wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unique Id is hardly anonymous. Anonymous tracking is already part of the URL. The ?utm_source=unfck part of the URL helps Mozilla know how many people installed Firefox from that link.

What data is being leaked that can be used to break anonymity?

You click the link. You get an ID assigned to you. You install the app. It calls back home with the ID and a list of specific apps on your Android.

This tracking is happens continuously. You have to go to the settings and toggle the data collection off.

In case it wasn't clear, I am not complaining. Analytics has its place, but the Unique ID's are a bit much, especially when they want to unfk the internet.

Re: Unfck the Internet

#44

Post by walrus01 »

Is it too much to ask to use the full and uncensored word 'fuck'. I personally have no problem with casual profanity when its use is warranted, and am more "offended" by people who think they need to self censor themselves.

Re: Unfck the Internet

#45

Post by twsted »

I love Firefox but my personal "fight-for-diversity" is carried on through the use of Safari, which I consider the best browser, at least on the Mac.

On Linux I use Firefox. On Windows I would use Firefox.

Re: Unfck the Internet

#46

Post by branon »

coldpie wrote: post #41
branon wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is only focused on privacy in the barest sense. They'll refuse to unlock physical devices while happily answering thousands of requests from the US and other govermnents for users' iCloud data[0]. They also don't allow users to encrypt data stored in iCloud, expressly so they can continue to do this[1]. Apple's front as a privacy company is little more than PR. I understand this isn't really the point of your c…

> They'll refuse to unlock physical devices while happily answering thousands of requests from the US and other govermnents for users' iCloud data[0]. They are required by law to do the latter. They are not required to to do the former (or at least are willing to go to court to defend that belief). > They also don't allow users to encrypt data stored in iCloud The article you linked does not back up this assertion. I…

I don't fully agree with your second point. The way iCloud on an iPhone works, users have no chance to encrypt data before uploading it. Most people are only tangentially aware of what data is siphoned automatically by the service.

It would be the responsibility of the iCloud service to encrypt data (if Apple had chosen to do so, and a user opts in). Simply choosing not to delete encrypted blobs is not the same thing. The salient point is that Apple was _going_ to offer encryption as a part of the iCloud service, but dropped the feature at the FBI's request.

Re: Unfck the Internet

#47

Post by katsume3 »

walrus01 wrote: post #44

Is it too much to ask to use the full and uncensored word 'fuck'. I personally have no problem with casual profanity when its use is warranted, and am more "offended" by people who think they need to self censor themselves.

I always found people who use that word online never actually achieve the word's intended purpose, which is to emotionally charge your sentiment. The word is so common place that it has lost all meaning. Using it in the early days you were a rebel and the word actually shocked people. Today, not so much. Using it just makes you sound like another boring keyboard warrior.

Re: Unfck the Internet

#48

Post by theandrewbailey »

dleslie wrote: post #30

What's the goal of this campaign? To raise awareness about Firefox's products and increase users? If so, who is the target demographic? The art and style look like they belong on Nickelodian. It's giving me a "Hello, fellow kids" vibe.

Nit pick: Nickelodeon, not "Nickelodian".

Re: Unfck the Internet

#50

Post by Wowfunhappy »

walrus01 wrote: post #44

Is it too much to ask to use the full and uncensored word 'fuck'. I personally have no problem with casual profanity when its use is warranted, and am more "offended" by people who think they need to self censor themselves.

> I personally have no problem with casual profanity when its use is warranted, and am more "offended" by people who think they need to self censor themselves.

You could frame this the other way. I don't necessarily understand why people are so bothered by the word, but I also don't understand why avoiding it would bother you.

Personally, I think it just makes the page accessible in more contexts. I'd feel ever-so-slightly embarrassed bringing up a page filled with course words while in the office. Removing the vowels makes me less embarrassed. We can have a discussion about if that makes any sense, but culture and traditions frequently don't make sense, and I don't think this is harming anyone.

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