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Gitter is joining Matrix
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#42I really like to use IRC on the terminal via Irssi. Can Irssi be used to access this matrix thing? If not, is there some nice matrix command line client in the Debian repos? Or maybe someone could just make an IRC server which is a bridge to matrix?
There's matrix-ircd which exposes Matrix servers as an IRC server. So, I'm pretty sure what you want already exists.
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#43I've found trying to get help from any project that uses Gitter to be a huge pain. It seems that people hardly ever check messages on there. I hope this helps the situation from a UX perspective. Maybe can provide better notification management options?
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
I recall we considered this at various stages a few years back. I think this was around the same time we introduced our chatops integration. I don't know the exact details and can't speak for others, but I suspect GitLab realised that chat(ops) tools are hard to sell and our time is better spent elsewhere. It's a shame though, having Gitter/chat directly integrated in a project (properly, not using e.g. an iframe) wo…
Ironically Gitter moving to Matrix probably makes this more likely - as integrating Matrix into GitLab would be much more sensible than integrating a single opinionated client like Gitter, given if GitLab properly spoke Matrix for chatops, it'd then be available to anyone in Matrix (Gitter, Element, or any platform bridged into Matrix - Slack, Discord, etc)
element already has some gitlab integrations
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#45I really like to use IRC on the terminal via Irssi. Can Irssi be used to access this matrix thing? If not, is there some nice matrix command line client in the Debian repos? Or maybe someone could just make an IRC server which is a bridge to matrix?
Matrix is based on an open documented protocol, which means it welcomes multiple implementations. There are several terminal-based clients, which you can see on their current client list, and I wouldn't be surprised if more appear over time: https://matrix.org/clients/
There are also Matrix-IRC bridges that already exist: https://matrix.org/bridges/#irc
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#46I really like to use IRC on the terminal via Irssi. Can Irssi be used to access this matrix thing? If not, is there some nice matrix command line client in the Debian repos? Or maybe someone could just make an IRC server which is a bridge to matrix?
> Can Irssi be used to access this matrix thing?
Yup. I haven't tried it myself and I think there are different ways to set that up but this could be a start (I think this is more targeted towards bridging matrix and IRC, which may or may not be what you want): https://matrix.org/bridges/#irc
> If not, is there some nice matrix command line client in the Debian repos?
Not sure what's in the mainline debian repos but there are some decent CLI clients, yes: https://matrix.org/clients/
If you're OK with weechat you can use that already :)
IMO matrix is already mature to be an IRC killer (caveat federated/decentralized identities, if that's something you require but arguably IRC doesn't have that either).
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#47I really like to use IRC on the terminal via Irssi. Can Irssi be used to access this matrix thing? If not, is there some nice matrix command line client in the Debian repos? Or maybe someone could just make an IRC server which is a bridge to matrix?
You could use an IRC Bridge https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc
As for direct access from the command line, I don't know.
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#48From the Matrix side, we're ridiculously happy to have the opportunity to defragment developer chat a bit, and get folks on Gitter natively talking to folks elsewhere on Matrix (including bridged to IRC, Slack, Discord or whatever). The fragmentation of FOSS development chat into proprietary silos a few years back was incredibly depressing, and this is our attempt to put right what once went wrong :) Happy to try to…
From the GitLab side we're very happy with the new home for Gitter. Chat is very useful but using multiple incompatible technologies has lead to fragmentation and silos. For example external developers being on Gitter when the organization behind the project is on Slack. Matrix is a great way to solve that and we hope Gitter will contribute to the success of it.
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#49I thought Gitter had already been acquired by GitLab?
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#50Can anyone comment on the state of UX with Element these days? I'm changing to Linux/Windows from Mac, so i'm dumping iMessage - but i'm not convinced Signal has a good enough UX to keep me and my family happy. Sidenote, i love how i can pay Element and support Matrix/Element.
In my opinion, Signal's UX is better than Element. Element's distinction of rooms / communities is not great, and hindered by the user interface. Although, after checking out Element again, all the other parts of the UI that I thought were unintuitive were changed up, so it's certainly improving.
Particularly for the situation you described - small, family chats - I'd recommend Signal over Element / Matrix.