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DOJ unveils proposed Section 230 legislation

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Re: DOJ unveils proposed Section 230 legislation

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1A protects you from the government. It has no relevance to free speech among persons and corporations.

Why is speech the only part of 1A that gets this treatment? You wouldn't say the same thing about religion

What do you mean? The first amendment absolutely does not allow me to practice my religion in Macy's.

Re: DOJ unveils proposed Section 230 legislation

#43

As usual for Section 230 stuff, Mike Mansick at Techdirt has the thoughtful, sourced analysis - including all the players and a history of their past actions https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200921/22345845352/trump...

I used to be a very regular reader of techdirt but it's become clear to me their quality has declined and they've been going for clickbait headlines full time since changing the monetization strategy. Masnick still makes some valid points but they're few and far inbetween, and the other site writers are generally not a beneficial read.

Re: DOJ unveils proposed Section 230 legislation

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I think that’s fine to ask social medias to choose between being a publisher or a platform. It’s perfectly fine to push your point of view online as it’s protected by the first. But you should bare consequences for the cases not protected by the first.

This could destroy the tech oligopolies. This would tangle them in unlimited court cases allowing for smaller sites with smaller pockets [1] to flourish. I imagine they will fight this to the death - or drag it in court at least until November elections for a pro-Oligopoly (Biden) camp to take over.

[1] Lawyers hate small pockets.

Re: DOJ unveils proposed Section 230 legislation

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Enlight us. For example, calling for the murders of specific people based on their political views or races don’t fall under the first. And social medias allow the spread of some of these messages with no consequences at the moment.

how is that not protected under the first amendment?

also private speech is more free-er than public speech

Re: DOJ unveils proposed Section 230 legislation

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If Fox News is streaming over YouTube TV, is it an online service that can be sued for moderating content in bad faith? Who gets sued? Fox News, YouTube TV, my ISP?

Everyone.

in the united states, this is the correct answer. sadly.

Re: DOJ unveils proposed Section 230 legislation

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I think that’s fine to ask social medias to choose between being a publisher or a platform. It’s perfectly fine to push your point of view online as it’s protected by the first. But you should bare consequences for the cases not protected by the first.

1A protects you from the government. It has no relevance to free speech among persons and corporations.

... unless they pass the law that's referenced in the link, you mean?

Re: DOJ unveils proposed Section 230 legislation

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post #9

I think that’s fine to ask social medias to choose between being a publisher or a platform. It’s perfectly fine to push your point of view online as it’s protected by the first. But you should bare consequences for the cases not protected by the first.

This could destroy the tech oligopolies. This would tangle them in unlimited court cases allowing for smaller sites with smaller pockets [1] to flourish. I imagine they will fight this to the death - or drag it in court at least until November elections for a pro-Oligopoly (Biden) camp to take over. [1] Lawyers hate small pockets.

> [1] Lawyers hate small pockets.

Judging from patent trolls (technically their lawyers) suing small startups, I don't see how thats the case, unless each website was serving <100 people and making 0 revenue.

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