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Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by DominikD » Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 1:48 PM UTC

wpdev_63 wrote: post #7

Holy sh!t. Bethesda is huge! Well I was just thinking the other day that Microsoft really doesn't have any first party studio that are really as good as Sony's first party. IMO they didn't release a game 'this' gen that makes picking up a xbox one worth it. This could change that with fallout and doom. Also this allows them to bring the ID tech engine under their stewardship.... I just hope that they don't trash the…

No Microsoft game has monetization as bad as Fallout 76. So whatever Bethesda does from now on can't be worse than what it does today. ;)

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by greenduck » Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 1:48 PM UTC

All of these consolidations of power are nuts. Feels like we need another round of trust busting in the next 10/20 years to help introduce real competition back into the markets.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by jon-wood » Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 1:48 PM UTC

ryneandal wrote: post #13

sgerenser wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even 7.5B is still only 15% of the failed TikTok deal. Seems like a bargain in comparison.

3x the Mojang purchase[1], and I still think it's worth it. 1: https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1308029942018510848

3x Mojang makes it sound like MS got a really good deal on Bethesda, at the time they bought Mojang they were really buying a single (very popular) game, while with Bethesda they get a huge back catalogue, some really big franchises, and ID with all their knowledge of engine development.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by Trasmatta » Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 1:48 PM UTC

One weird thing is that Deathloop and Ghostwrite are timed exclusives on PS5. I'm assuming that'll still happen because of contracts, but I wonder if there will never be another Bethesda game on PlayStation afterwards.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by bsagdiyev » Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 1:49 PM UTC

Danieru wrote: post #32

Incredible that Fallout and Obsidian are now under the same roof again. The Outer Worlds was fun, and I want to see Obsidians efforts continue. Still, new Vegas 2 would be fine too.

How is The Outer Worlds? I heard it is basically space Fallout, which if that is half as good as it sounds I am all over it.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by MaxBarraclough » Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 1:49 PM UTC

bzb5 wrote: post #19

jhasse wrote: post #16

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ID tech is one of the biggest Vulkan users. I really hope they don't port it to Directx 12 instead :(

When I saw Doom 2016 running on OpenGL I was shocked. I would’ve never thought you could write an AAA game with it. It made me wonder why game developers use DX instead.

If you want to target Xbox, you need to write a D3D renderer anyway (although the Xbox API has some significant differences, if I understand correctly). There's little point writing an OpenGL renderer if your target platforms are Windows, Xbox, and PlayStation (which has its own graphics API).

Also, my understanding is that on Windows, OpenGL generally runs into more issues with driver bugs than D3D does.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by syshum » Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 1:49 PM UTC

Covzire wrote: post #24

RIP Bethesda.

Honestly it is hard for me to see how Microsoft can ruin Bethesda any worse than ZeniMax was already....

the new Doom was ok, but the new Fallout was TERRIBLE, as with many other recent Bethesda ventures...

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by aixi » Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 1:50 PM UTC

iamericfletcher wrote: post #31

actuator wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I am not mistaken they have some few PS5 exclusives under development. Is there any new IP that Bethesda is working on, which can be potentially a Xbox/PC exclusive?

Sans Socom 2 remake, PS5 is going to be absolute garbage.

Demon Souls remake?

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by gravypod » Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 1:50 PM UTC

Danieru wrote: post #32

Incredible that Fallout and Obsidian are now under the same roof again. The Outer Worlds was fun, and I want to see Obsidians efforts continue. Still, new Vegas 2 would be fine too.

I bought xbox game pass just to play The Outer Worlds. Best fun I've had playing a game since FNV and watching Firefly. If they pooled the resources for their studios it would be amazing.

Re: Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and Bethesda Softworks for $7.5B

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Post by manojlds » Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 1:51 PM UTC

actuator wrote: post #27

wpdev_63 wrote: post #7

Holy sh!t. Bethesda is huge! Well I was just thinking the other day that Microsoft really doesn't have any first party studio that are really as good as Sony's first party. IMO they didn't release a game 'this' gen that makes picking up a xbox one worth it. This could change that with fallout and doom. Also this allows them to bring the ID tech engine under their stewardship.... I just hope that they don't trash the…

If I am not mistaken they have some few PS5 exclusives under development. Is there any new IP that Bethesda is working on, which can be potentially a Xbox/PC exclusive?

Deathloop too, which was just shown off in the PS5 event.