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Re: Ask HN: How are online communities established?

#41

Build a community goes beyond "rally people around something they are passionate about". 1 - Not all people who have same preferences or like the same things are willing to discuss or share ideas about that. 2 - I like to think people gathering around some topic is a secondary move, the primary thing that make people gather around is 'VALUES' and 'Principles'. 3 - We like to discuss ideas with people who we value, we…

Interesting perspective. Do you think those “values” and “principles” should be explicitly stated somewhere, or should they emerge from the early users and the dialogue happening around a topic?

I believe We need to establish as soon as possible the main values and principles addressing what can kill the community as you are envisioning.

Furtherly, You can be open to discuss and aggregate more and more if necessary...

Rules can be more specific and based on your values and principles, the rules are the way you make the principles and values be followed/respected. Rules can change and adapt towards the behaviors but, on the other hand, I think principles and values shape behaviors, indeed.

Thanks for asking that ;)

Re: Ask HN: How are online communities established?

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i gave up on hn.

i became passive a few months ago. sorry dang, but no matter how you wanna look at it or defend it, hn is now, for me, a hivemind. but i just logged in for the first time in a while because i truly love this question.

a community is a place where people go to and talk about things they like. it is a place they can escape to.

i have been part of far too many. i have seen communities started by 12yo and 50yo. some are still there while i moved on. some are dear and near to my heart. i left some for personal reasons. people were getting far too close and personal and you get scared. but you keep in touch with those people you truly love to talk to.

great communities don't die, they just take up a new name.

Re: Ask HN: How are online communities established?

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post #28

Thoughts about maintaining quality of community: 1. Stream of new content 2. Preserving a (possibly revolving) core group of contributors (20% of the userbase generates 80% of the activity) 3. Quality control/moderation (we know what happened to Quora) An online community has to be aspirational (as in participants want to be part of an exalted peer group, e.g. SV founders) or serve a need for knowledge somehow.

> Preserving a (possibly revolving) core group of people (20% of the userbase generates 80% of the activity) very true but 100% of the userbase will consume 100% of the activity, extreme numbers but point being that whilst only 20% are creating content a greater share, assume everyone, will consume it. In the UK there is a community called mumsnet - I know so many people (including me) who consume from it but do not…

Oops I meant to say contributors -- you're right of course.

Re: Ask HN: How are online communities established?

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post #12

You get users. The most important part imo is the regulars who stick around and talk to everyone, answer everything. They make the core of a community and help turn others into regulars. I used to have 2 small niche forums and there were always 2-5 people that created the bulk of the content ( along with myself - I had to post a lot to start and keep it going, I was the first user! ). Always making threads, checking…

I think you really nailed this! I've built a couple forums, one which just hit 15 years and has around 6000 registered users. It is member funded, hosted, moderated etc. I have no part in it anymore really and it has a great culture. I've actually just launched a new forum for my current employer and our community members.

Like you said, it takes effort from the person starting it to create activity and get people coming back / building a habit of checking for new content. Then you must empower the people that are passionate about what you're doing and treat them more like an equal / admin / mod vs a simple user.

This ted talk explains how I feel about building a community really well: https://www.ted.com/talks/derek_sivers_how_to_start_a_moveme...

Re: Ask HN: How are online communities established?

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post #39

I built a 30k+ member vbulletin community in the 2000s. I used sock puppets with different personalities and views that created threads, replied to each other and encouraged real users to reply and made them feel welcome. I also moderated as myself and was welcoming to real new users, (and the puppets :) This did not last more than two months, as there were enough real users that the puppets were able to largely hibe…

how is it doing now after 20 years? I feel the real challenge is once the community comes together, it invites or makes new comers feel comfortable. Also usually old members just move on for various reasons.

Re: Ask HN: How are online communities established?

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post #12

You get users. The most important part imo is the regulars who stick around and talk to everyone, answer everything. They make the core of a community and help turn others into regulars. I used to have 2 small niche forums and there were always 2-5 people that created the bulk of the content ( along with myself - I had to post a lot to start and keep it going, I was the first user! ). Always making threads, checking…

I think the OP wants to know how you get those initial users.

Re: Ask HN: How are online communities established?

#47

I think there's also a very important step which is that often these successful communities have value even if others don't join -- what I've heard previously described as "Single Player Mode". Instagram had filters and photo editing -- and could then also post to Facebook. Even if you knew no one else on Instagram, there was a reason to use it. Github is still a great UX for Git. You can host your own repos and work…

This isn't helpful in the context of an app where its purpose is the community , so you haven't really answered OP's question. I can't play reddit on single player mode. Communities start around passionate, interesting individuals. Reddit initially got popular because it was chuffed full of technologists who were openly sharing juicy details about their work. There were hundreds of other websites at the time that all…

Reddit's single player mode is "news reader." Doesn't matter if it's aggregated by the community or curated. The reason why it blew up was because people migrated from another news aggregator, Digg, in 2010.

Re: Ask HN: How are online communities established?

#49

I remember reading that the Reddit founders created fake users and posted links / conversation starters in order to make the site feel like it had some level of critical mass.

Almost every large online service started by using fake accounts or little to no rules. That is how you build a community. Get everyone to show up then slowly change the rules/playing field. Anyone remember that linkedin launched as a scam service?

Could you please link some reference to the linkedin stuff? Cannot find anything on google

Re: Ask HN: How are online communities established?

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post #32

Why do you want to? So you can extract money from them? Don't. So you can have someone to control and moderate and exercise power over? Don't. So you can have the prestige and status of a community owner and/or high traffic website owner and/or successful person? Don't. Have you noticed that HN was originally a small group of smart industry knowledgable people, and gradually they trended towards disengaging as it got…

> "HN is a marketing machine for YCombinator, not a real community." I disagree, a large percentage of people that are here for the interesting articles and curious discussion, but have no interest in YCombinator at all...

If your disagreement had merit, you’d be saying “what’s YCombinator?”.
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