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Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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Does Amazon own the WaPo? I thought Bezos did.

Does Amazon own Amazon? I thought Bezos did. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/insights/052816/top-4-...

You did? With 11% of the company?

> Amazon's chief executive officer (CEO) and founder, Jeff Bezos, is the company's biggest shareholder, with 55.5 million shares representing 11.1% of outstanding shares.

Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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Not true, a simple Google search reveals [1 in 4 US adults have a smart speaker]( https://marketingland.com/roughly-1-in-4-u-s-adults-now-owns... ). It _is_ a choice people make, and most don't care about privacy. Not that it matters though - phones are [already a vector]( https://www.wired.com/2014/06/nsa-bug-iphone/ ) for the government to listen to you. I'm not sure this news really changes anything - the governme…

Well, the majority still aren't buying. The initial assertion was "in every home", which is false in the majority of homes.

> Well, the majority still aren't buying. The initial assertion was "in every home", which is false in the majority of homes.

Are we assuming that all the individuals who purchased the devices live completely alone? There are only 128 million households in the US. [0]

[0]: https://www.statista.com/statistics/183635/number-of-househo...

Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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Does Amazon own Amazon? I thought Bezos did. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/insights/052816/top-4-...

You did? With 11% of the company? > Amazon's chief executive officer (CEO) and founder, Jeff Bezos, is the company's biggest shareholder, with 55.5 million shares representing 11.1% of outstanding shares.

what % of the votes?

Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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Will it matter? The sheep (myself included) will still shop on Amazon.

Its not like they have no competition- if people end up trusting walmart more than amazon we could see a shift happen. And again - HQ2. That was a huge miscalculation that resulted in actual problems for them - they're not able to get everything they want.

What kind of problems? If it didn't affect their customers, then it's not really a problem is it? Sure, if they have to find somewhere else to house people that's just a logistics issue. Problems come when income goes down.

Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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How can an ostensibly consumer and business targeted company company allow someone so anti-consumer on the board? Why doesn't anyone have the balls to say "this guy shouldn't be on our board because if we have someone in cahoots with the spooks on our board people will buy less dragon dildos and .223 fuel filters and the sketchy SAAS providers will use less AWS for their crap because their customers will be worried a…

What does he bring to the table that makes this something you'd want to do any ways? Is it a reward for something he's done in the past?

Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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You did? With 11% of the company? > Amazon's chief executive officer (CEO) and founder, Jeff Bezos, is the company's biggest shareholder, with 55.5 million shares representing 11.1% of outstanding shares.

what % of the votes?

11.1%.

Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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> For those keeping score, not only does Amazon own the The Washington Post and oversees the CIA’s Commercial Cloud Enterprise, it now has on its powerful board of directors the most visible figure from the NSA who illegally spied on Americans for the better part of a decade. This sounds tinfoil hat crazy, but here we are. Not so crazy now. Man in a position to have reams of compromising intel on the current presiden…

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Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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Does Amazon own Amazon? I thought Bezos did. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/insights/052816/top-4-...

You did? With 11% of the company? > Amazon's chief executive officer (CEO) and founder, Jeff Bezos, is the company's biggest shareholder, with 55.5 million shares representing 11.1% of outstanding shares.

Which would make him the majority shareholder. By a margin of 5% - almost double the next largest shareholder and more than the next dozen shareholders combined.

In other words: he has unilateral control of the company. Welcome to publicly traded companies. You don't need 51% to control the company.

Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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> For those keeping score, not only does Amazon own the The Washington Post and oversees the CIA’s Commercial Cloud Enterprise, it now has on its powerful board of directors the most visible figure from the NSA who illegally spied on Americans for the better part of a decade. This sounds tinfoil hat crazy, but here we are. Not so crazy now. Man in a position to have reams of compromising intel on the current presiden…

The implication here requires a few things to be true. 1. The CIA illegally collected intelligence on Donald Trump prior to his election to the Presidency 2. This intelligence was specifically of a compromising nature to President Trump 3. This intelligence was retained and can be retrieved at a moments notice 4. The retired DCI, who is no longer a government employee, somehow retains his read ins, Need to Know or ac…

Plus we've already had an impeachment trial. If there were damning, conclusive evidence that the CIA possessed on Trump, that would have been the time to present it.
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