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Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobile ad market

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Re: Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobile ad market

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Post by tiny_epoch »

godzillabrennus wrote: post #15
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #4

This is unfortunate. Adtech is a cancer. We don't need to give it time to adapt, we need to shut it down.

It pays for the modern web. It is probably in need of more transparency and clear user defined controls but hardly a cancer.

I think it's fair to say that the modern web is a cancer on the human mind. We've become lost in this fake online world, and its leading us quickly to a dark place by feeding our worst impulses.

Adtech is at the root of it. We need to take our chemo and do something else with our limited lifetimes.

Re: Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobile ad market

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Post by novok »

AnonHP wrote: post #6

(Re-posting on this thread) What a bummer! As an iOS user, I was eagerly looking forward to this feature, wanting to tell others about it and how the upgrade to iOS 14 would be worth it just to clearly expose apps that want to track users. I already have ad tracking limited in my settings (Settings->Privacy->Limit Ad Tracking), but that was something I had to explicitly turn on, and there’s no notice on which apps us…

Well it is effectively the same thing what your doing, I think it applies to every single app either way.

Re: Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobile ad market

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Post by legulere »

baby wrote: post #30
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #4

This is unfortunate. Adtech is a cancer. We don't need to give it time to adapt, we need to shut it down.

Do you realize the number of free services that one uses thanks to ads? Not everyone can afford to pay for these. I for one use gmail, google maps, google calendar, google docs, etc. Every day

Do you realize how much bullshit people buy that they do not need because of ads? People end up with much less money because of that. And the environment suffers too.

And no, without apps people would be able to discover new things. Current ads are not about facts but connecting feelings with products.

Re: Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobile ad market

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

baby wrote: post #30
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #4

This is unfortunate. Adtech is a cancer. We don't need to give it time to adapt, we need to shut it down.

Do you realize the number of free services that one uses thanks to ads? Not everyone can afford to pay for these. I for one use gmail, google maps, google calendar, google docs, etc. Every day

The world would be arguably a better place if all of those services went dark tomorrow. Everything offered there can be done elsewhere by better products with less user harm, for free, today.

Re: Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobile ad market

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Post by criddell »

idiotallover wrote: post #14
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #4

This is unfortunate. Adtech is a cancer. We don't need to give it time to adapt, we need to shut it down.

The only cancer is people spewing compost without any depth to their thinking. Adtech has powered things since dawn of civilization. Here educate yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_advertising If you just flat out ban shit without nuanced understanding, you hurt people more than help. Facebook will pivot, they will charge people for video or gaming or oculus. But there will be no shopify, no tv shows,…

You're equating ad-tech with advertising. They aren't the same thing.

Re: Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobile ad market

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Post by dudus »

firloop wrote: post #2

Apple's blog post about their plans: "We are committed to ensuring users can choose whether or not they allow an app to track them. To give developers time to make necessary changes, apps will be required to obtain permission to track users starting early next year. More information, including an update to the App Store Review Guidelines, will follow this fall." https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=hx9s63c5

This reads as just another popup you'll need to click before you can use any app. Just like cookies.

Re: Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobile ad market

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Post by sujinge9 »

b1476 wrote: post #40
baby wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you realize the number of free services that one uses thanks to ads? Not everyone can afford to pay for these. I for one use gmail, google maps, google calendar, google docs, etc. Every day

There are plenty of free alternatives to Google that don’t rely on ads and respect your privacy.

What are some free products that don't rely on ads?

Re: Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobile ad market

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Post by sosborn »

baby wrote: post #30
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #4

This is unfortunate. Adtech is a cancer. We don't need to give it time to adapt, we need to shut it down.

Do you realize the number of free services that one uses thanks to ads? Not everyone can afford to pay for these. I for one use gmail, google maps, google calendar, google docs, etc. Every day

Do you realize that you can have ads subsidizing free services without any tracking or using any third-party services?

Re: Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobile ad market

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Post by akerro »

idiotallover wrote: post #14
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #4

This is unfortunate. Adtech is a cancer. We don't need to give it time to adapt, we need to shut it down.

The only cancer is people spewing compost without any depth to their thinking. Adtech has powered things since dawn of civilization. Here educate yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_advertising If you just flat out ban shit without nuanced understanding, you hurt people more than help. Facebook will pivot, they will charge people for video or gaming or oculus. But there will be no shopify, no tv shows,…

OH no, I'm so sorry for ads now. Poor, poor ads, let's make it easy for them to be more annoying and less regulated for once after years of being intrusive, bringing malware, tracking people across portals and devices, and still being flipping unreliable.

Re: Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobile ad market

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Post by moron4hire »

godzillabrennus wrote: post #15
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #4

This is unfortunate. Adtech is a cancer. We don't need to give it time to adapt, we need to shut it down.

It pays for the modern web. It is probably in need of more transparency and clear user defined controls but hardly a cancer.

Given the number of newspapers and blogs closing every year, it doesn't actually seem to be the case that adtech successfully pays for the "modern Web".
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